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3500. Carl or Dino Medro, 23 Oct 2010 - I'm trying to locate Carl or Dino Medro,we were friends when we were kids in Sarasota, I used to go to the Circus Hall Of Fame with them. Just curious if the guys are still around. Tony Measel. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 11 Aug 2013 - I'm also looking to connect with Dino Medro. I met him many years ago when he and his family performed at The Magic Forest in Lake George NY. I would appreciate any information. Thank You. Diane

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3499. Charles Adams, 22 Oct 2010 - Charles/Charlie Adams was my Great Uncle and it seems he emigrated to America in the 1890s. Family oral history had him working a seal/sea lion trainer in a circus. Certainly he came over to London with his show before the first World War as my grandmother and her family went to see his act in a theatre. Has anyone got any further informaton about him or his act please? Very many thanks for any help you can give me. Mike. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3498. Tom Sidonia, tatooed, 22 Oct 2010 - I am doing family research and have been told that my mother in law's grandfather was a circus performer. His name was Tom Sidonia and he was tatooed from head to toe. I have seen a picture of him. I would like to know a little bit about him and have not been successful in finding him in the census, which makes sense since he would be travelling. I am hoping that you will be able to help me in this quest. Thank you, Margaret A. Haas. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 25 Oct 2010 - Ms. Haas, I found an old news article about Mr. Sidonia. It was published in the 22 Jun 1954 issue of the (Beckley, West Virginia) Post Herald. The author speaks of Mr. Sidonia as having recently passed away at the age of 85 and mentions how much he loved fishing. The writer goes on to say:
        "Tom Sidonia had come to the Elks Home in 1941. We met him there in 1944, after a colorful career that had carried him to the great ___ all over the world. He had been a tight rope artist and a trick bicycle rider in some of the great circuses of his time - Washburn and Arlington, Ringling Brothers, Bob Hunting, _____. And in 19__, he had organized his own show under the name of "The Great Sidonia," touring much of the world in the succeeding years.
        Bobby Wall, an erstwhile reporter on the Post Herald, and now on the Bedford Democrat, had written Tom Sidonia's obituary and he noted that she referred to the fact that he was reported to have been the most tattooed man in the world. This we know for a fact. For upon one of our visits with him, he said, "Let me show you something," and in an instant he had stripped himself of his clothing. There was not a square inch of his body from the neck down that was not covered with tattoo marks of every shape and design imaginable.
        He never told us in so many words, but we gathered that he was wiped out permanently in the stock market crash of 1929. He had painted some as a hobby through the years and when he came to the Elks Home he gave this his full attention. His old paintings adorn many of the Bedford stores, restaurants, churches, and the Elks Home. He was a little man, but also a titan among the yards of canvas around him. Remembering him, we marvel again at the ability of the human mind to triumph over the obstacles of this life; the ability of a man to pick up the pieces of a shattered life and go on living happily and with a purpose until the end."
        Some of the newspaper is hard to read so I left those parts blank. Good Luck in your further research. - Tom H.

    Reply: 20 Nov 2010 - Thank you for the information. It has helped quite a bit. Margaret

    Reply: 02 Feb 2011 - I'm John Chryssikos. I have an oil painting of the old boy himself, fishing for trout on a local creek. My father owned the Greek restraunt in Bedford, VA from 1940s till 1969s.

    Reply: 05 Aug 2011 - I own a cottage in Ontario Canada that was either owned by or frequented by The Great Sidonia. It is on a little island called "Sidonia" and apparently the original cottage had circus posters advertising "The Great Sidonia". It probably fit with his love for fishing. Would be greatly interested in a copy of a photo or of a poster if anyone has such a thing. Wayne

    Reply: 17 Mar 2014 - My parents have an oil painting of a ship at sea in rough water that is signed “Tom Sidonia,” It was probably purchased in upstate New York, or New Jersey — but currently resides in Memphis, Tennessee. Steven

    Reply: 22 Jul 2015 - I have a very large painting of an elk in my basement, signed by Tom Sidonia, 1941. I'm in IL. Natalie

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3497. John F. Kennedy, 21 Oct 2010 - Hello, Sometime in 1952-1953 John F. Kennedy attended a circus. John C Yancey & his wife Eloise were present in the row behind him. Photos were taken, and I am seeking any and all contacts or information regarding this night at the circus. Can you provide me with any information. Please direct your reply to Indepenrn@Gmail. Sincerely Yours, Robert. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3496. Dani, ringmaster, 18 Oct 2010 - I am looking for Dani who was a ring master for Lilliput circus and his wife Rosi. We met them years ago in Bali on holiday. He is such a great guy would love to know how to contact them via email. Thanks, Penny Anderson. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3495. Archie Gayer, 15 Oct 2010 - Hi, My name is John Gross and I remember the name Archie Gayer from having working at the Wisconsin State Fair in the mid 1950's. I worked there during the summers in the fair sign shop while going to college in Milwaukee. I did sign work for Archie for the country music shows he brought to the fair. The one I remember most was the Johnnie and Jack show with Kitty Wells. Over several summers he was also the promoter of other shows. I remember Archie as a very good guy even tho' I was only a kid. Any one else out there remember Archie and the shows he promoted? Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3494. Ringling-Barnum blow-down 1949, 14 Oct 2010 - Ringling-Barnum "Blown Date" Sept 18 1949? I am looking for specific information on why Ringling-Barnum skipped the advertised performance in Redding California on Sunday September 18, 1949. I have a poster advertising the "Night Only" performance at the Benton Show Grounds in Redding, yet a check of the official route published at the end of the season indicates that while Medford, Oregon was played on Saturday Sept 17 and performances were held in Sacramento on Monday Sept 19, for some reason Redding was passed despite being contracted and billed. I have been unable to find any contemporary news accounts of why and hope that someone with a detailed knowledge of the 1949 season can shed some light on this event. Chris Berry. Circusposters@gmail.com. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 15 Oct 2010 - Subsequent to posting this question, I was able to find an account of what happened to the Ringling-Barnum Redding, California date in the October 1, 1949 issue of the Billboard. Evidently the section of the train carrying the big top was delayed after the Medford performances and didn’t arrive in Redding until 6pm on Sunday evening, despite the fact that the towns are only about 150 miles apart! With showtime approaching, the decision was made to “blow the date” and move on to Sacramento. Still more problems were on tap as the train was also delayed on its 160 mile trip from Redding to Sacramento – and the Matinee performance on Monday was also cancelled. Chris Berry circusposters@gmail.com

    Reply: 15 Oct 2010 - According to the Joe Bradbury article printed in the Sept-Oct 1987 issue of the White Tops magazine the train section loaded with the big top was delayed enroute and did not arrive in Redding until after 6 PM. It was decided to cancel the planned night performance and move onto Sacremento. It was necessary to cancel the matinee performance at Sacremento due to a late arrival also, giving just an evening performance. The article goes on to state that the rail service provided by the Southern Pacific was poor in those days. Flint

    Reply: 20 Oct 2010 - Don’t be misled by the distance of 150 miles. To our modern airline and highway experiences, that isn’t very far, but in 1949 this was about the length of an entire division on a railroad.
        What's odd here is that only one section of the train was delayed (1 of 4?), and there were no news articles. Had this been caused by weather or wreck, many trains would have been impacted, and the angle that it involved the circus train would certainly have been unusual news.
        What could have gone wrong? As an extra, the train would have been inferior to any regularly scheduled trains. That alone might have delayed its departure due to the volume of traffic, or a lack of available crews or engines. It's also possible that the train finally got underway after a long delay, only to put the crew in danger of exceeding hours of service rules. This would require they be relieved after 16 hours on duty, and it can take quite a while to call and send out a replacement crew.
        With nothing much else to go on, a mechanical problem may have occurred en route, possibly the failure of a locomotive. That would require finding a suitable replacement, calling its crew, getting to the location of the breakdown, switching out the defective engine and finally getting underway. All very time consuming work.
        It's doubtful any SP records from this period still exist, but you might try the SP historical society at http://www.sphts.org/. Lance Burton

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3493. Ray Beaudet, 14 Oct 2010 - Hello! I am writing from Gatineay, Qc., Canada. I am a genealogist with les Familles Beaudet. I am interested in obtaining information on Ray Beaudet. Who he was, his accomplishments in the business, his personality traits, pictures. Thank you, Robert Beaudette. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 19 Mar 2011 - Hello. Who are you. I have many wonderful memories of my father, an extraordinary person. Please reply. Kathleen.

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3492. John Sullivan, 11 Oct 2010 - I had contact with Mr John Sullivan of New Zealand sometime back in regard to Krista & Kristel trapeze artistes - Mr Sullivan if you see this message please reply to it - I unfortunately did not save your addresses. I have had contact from a granddaughter of one of the above K's. Thank you, doris hoon. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3491. Circuses, Idaho, 10 Oct 2010 - The Nez Perce County Historical Society, Lewiston, Idaho recently acquired a photograph dated 1899. The photo shows the Ringling Bros. circus tents on the bluff overlooking the Clearwater River. This is the first time a large circus visited Lewiston, Idaho as the railroad spur had just been completed. My question is:

Had Ringling Bros. Circus visited Idaho prior to this date?
Had any large circus visited Idaho prior to this date?
Are there any traveling circus documentation pertaining to Idaho?

Thank you for your information as it would add to the article I am writing for the Historical Society. Garry Bush, Lewiston, ID, gbbush@clearwire.net. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 16 Oct 2010 - It appears that the first large circus to tour and perform in Idaho was “The Great Adam Forepaugh Show” of 1891. The circus that season was owned and operated by James A. Bailey, James E. Cooper and the estate of PT Barnum. In 1891 the Forepaugh Show was used to reach expand the geography and reach cities that Barnum & Bailey couldn’t or wouldn’t reach. After leaving its Philadelphia winter quarters in late April “The Great Adam Forepaugh Show” quickly headed west and over the course of the season exhibited in Montana, Washington, Utah territory and Idaho – towns that had never seen a big circus. The Forepaugh Show’s itinerary of 1891 included the Idaho towns of Montpelier (Noon show only) Aug 24, Moscow Sep 1, Boise Sep 19 and Pocatello Sep 21. It appears that no other big shows made it to Idaho until Forepaugh-Sells returned to Pocatello Aug 1, 1896 – but that was the only Iowa [Idaho?] town that was played that season. A check of local newspapers from those dates should provide you with more information on the circus arrival – including advertisements and feature articles. Chris Berry, circusposters@gmail.com

    Reply: 18 Oct 2010 - I agree with Chris Berry - check out the local newspapers. On 20th Sept 1891, after the circus visited Boise, the Idaho Daily Statesman devoted over a column and a half to the event. Covering everything from the circus grounds, the crowds, the parade,(first visit of a calliope) the menagerie, the acts, the value of ticket sales, and also details of the various burglaries committed during the parade. Paul Griffiths.

    Reply: 23 Oct 2010 - I always wonder when it come to the 'first time ever' that a show played a city or state, as I recently researched the early circuses in Nevada for a presentation at the Circus Fans of America convention in Las Vegas two years ago. As it goes you need to not only check your local papers but other possible locations when it comes to a state such as Idaho. The Forepaugh Show did play in Moscow, Idaho on September 1, 1891, but when you read the papers you will find out that the Sells Brothers Circus jumped into town ahead of them on July 29, 1891. The Sells Bros even had a balloon ascension on the circus lot as they were 'just passing through' headed for the west coast and only made a one day stand in Idaho. In 1884 the W.W. Cole Circus, 'a really big show' came through and played at Eagle Rock, Oregon July 31, Franklin Aug 1, Logan Aug 2, Hailey, Idaho Aug 4, Caldwell Aug 5, Shoshone Aug 6, Montpelier Aug 7, and on to Green River W.T. Aug 8. The show's elephant Samson also put on quite a free show at Hailey, Idaho in the Wood River Valley on Aug 4, 1884. After the parade through town Sampson decided that once the show was back on the lot that he would play with the lion cage and started to smash it. The elephant then walked down to the railroad depot and moved everything in his way. He was secured to a section of the track and was peppered with a variety of shotguns and rifles and was bleeding. After a standoff his keeper then brought him under control, and was marched under the canvas and made ready for the afternoon performance. Ted Bowman Circus Route Collection.

    Reply: 05 Jan 2014 - I am doing research about the Idaho gold rush era and came across an interesting piece of circus history and would like more information. A circus (no name given) came to town and the owner lost his elephant in a poker game. The elephant stayed on after the circus left town of OroFino, Idaho. Anyone know of this incident, the circus company, or year? Thank you! Pam

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3490. Jabczynski Group, 09 Oct 2010 - I'm looking for a member of the Jabczynski Group from the year of 1977 & 1978. His name was Edzus (Eddie) for short. Thank you, Joanne Canaday, Jcanaday@comporium.net. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 05 Jul 2011 - Yes worked with Eddie my husband was in Jabcynski troupe on Ringling! Lori

    Reply: 08 Jan 2014 - Lori, can you please email me at beachtym@gmail.com, regarding Edzus (Eddie). I want to make sure that we are talking about the same person. Thank you very much, Joanne

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3489. Trapeze act, 05 Oct 2010 - I have a polish circus poster that depicts three trapeze artists who are hanging in such a way that their bodies depict the profile of a face. Do you know the name of this stunt? Mitch. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3488. Missouri - Circuses, employees, 1880s, 04 Oct 2010 - My name is M. H. Hubbard and I have been looking for a distant ancestor for about 10 years. His name is Andrew J. Hubbard born in 1859 in Boonville Missouri. The last time we can find him is in 1880 census. There is a story that goes like this - He was a Blacksmith and had a shop in Marshall county on Highway 20 out of Mt. Leonard, Missouri. A circus came through and needed some horses shod and some other blacksmith work. He proceeded to do the work and the story goes that they liked his work so much that they enticed him to join the circus crew. He did and nobody has heard anything at all from him since. I am wondering if anyone could tell me what circus could have been traveling through there in the early 1880's. Maybe someone could tell me where to find a list of employees for circuses of that era. I might be able to finish genealogy mystery if I could that information. My email address is murt71@cableone.net. Thanks in advance for any information. Murt Hubbard. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3487. Frank Buck circus car, 03 Oct 2010 - Does anyone out there have a picture or a source for the Frank Buck Circus car Malaya? I am painting one in O Gauge and would like to do it right. Thanx, John Charvat. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3486. Circus Rider (book), 02 Oct 2010 - Circus Rider - a novel history of the first American circus, is now available to the public at circusrider.org/Home.php. The Circus of Pépin and Breschard; President Thomas Jefferson; the Marquis de Lafayette; America’s most famous artist, Gilbert Stuart; and the pirate Jean Lafitte are among the many notable characters who appear in Circus Rider. This novel history also delineates the provenance of Gilbert Stuart’s classic painting, The Circus Rider. Stuart’s iconic portrait, once considered to be the image of John Bill Ricketts, the Englishman who ran the first circus to appear in the U.S., is clearly demonstrated to be the image of Jean Baptiste Breschard. Breschard was the equestrian performer and circus owner who; along with his partner, native New Yorker Victor Pépin; operated the unprecedentedly successful Circus of Pépin and Breschard during the first two decades of the 19th century.
    Circus Rider illuminates a period of American history too long overlooked while shining a spotlight on the circus equestrians who were the first true American superstars. The circus has maintained a continuous presence in the United States beginning with Pépin and Breschard in 1807. Circus Rider follows the effect over the past 200 years of this most important cultural institution. The early American circus may well be something a good deal different and a great deal more important than you have previously imagined. Circus Rider by Peter Breschard, now available at circusrider.org/Home.php from Galldubh Press. Peter Breschard Okemos, MI. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 04 Oct 2010 - I believe that some years ago the CHS (at the urging of Stuart Thayer) put a marker on the grave of Victor Pépin. Someone please help this old man with his often faulty memories. Dave

    Reply: 06 Oct 2010 - Victor Pepin's grave marker is the subject of a short article by Stuart Thayer in the New Albany Tribune, 5-17-2000, which you can read here:

    http://www.nafclibrary.org/Resources/Indiana/Ancestors/FamilyHistory/Pepin.pdf (search Thayer).

    Since the publication of this article many previously undiscovered citations have come to light. Peter Breschard, Okemos, MI

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3485. George Christopher, 01 Oct 2010 - Hi, I am trying to find out about George Christopher aka "Herr Christophe," a tightrope dancer in the 1850 -1860. He was from England and had a daughter in Liverpool. I saw that he is indexed in a 1979 volume of Bandwagon Vol 38 , Nos 5. I have recently discovered he is part of our family and would like to find out about his career. Kind Regards, Erin. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 04 Oct 2010 - Hello, in Vol.1 of the late John Turners book "VICTORIAN ARENA -The Performers" he desribes: Christoff, Herr. Rope dancer. One of the finest in the world. Born around 1826, real name George Christopher. A black man. At the Bingley Hall Circus, Birmingham, with a company under his own management, in February 1856. In May 1856 was with Madame Newsome's Circus, Cheltenham. With Edwin Croueste at a circus, at Stratford in 1857, described by Croueste as "the finest tight rope dancer in the world". Appeared at E.T. Smith's "Cirque Imperial", Royal Alhambra Palace, London, about 1860, representing Africa in a vaulting contest. Mons. And Mme. Christoff were jugglers, balancers, etc. In 1868. Performed at Oxenford's "The Last Days of Pompeii", at the New Queens Theatre, London, in 1872. His father also George Christopher, was to be seen, balancing a cartwheel, in the streets of London, in the 1870s, the performer being an elderly black man. Died Lambeth Infirmary,London, on the 13th June 1881, aged 55 years. He also appeared in Australia and New Zealand with Foley's Californian Circus in 1865 and with Bird, Blows and Wills "Great American Circus" in 1869/70. Cheers, John Sullivan, Christchurch, New Zealand.

    Reply: 05 Oct 2010 - To John Sullivan. I don’t have an email address to contact you directly,(probably I can but I am missing a trick maybe) so thank you so much for this information. How did you know this? Is there anyway I can research further and possibly find some posters/images etc. By the way I am Erin Sullivan of Australia! What a coincidence! I am in the UK right now though. Thank you and any more hints would be very welcome. Kind Regards, Erin Sullivan

    Reply: 06 Oct 2010 - Hello Erin. Thank you for your comments but the credit must go to John Turner sadly no longer with us. My interest is primarily Circus performers in Colonial New Zealand which invariably spills over to include Australia well. In the case of George Christopher he had been covered in detail by John Turner so I had a head start which was supplemented with hours and hours of trolling through old New Zealand newspapers, books etc. These days many newspapers in New Zealand and Australia have a digital format which can produce information very quickly. Australia has an abundance of stored circus historical information, its just a matter of using your computer to track it down. If you are at present in the UK it would be the perfect place to start your research, Google, Circus History UK and it will point you in the right direction. Cheers, John Sullivan, New Zealand.

    Reply: 12 Aug 2011 - A big thank you from me too. I'm studying a minstrel who settled here in Australia in 1852. Along with him I'm looking at performers who were with him at times. I can pass on the small piece of information that Christoff was performing in Beaufort in Central Victoria, Australia in 1861. Ref. Ballarat Star October 12th 1861. From the Beaufort correspondent on October 10th 1861: "... and gymnastic and acrobatic performances by a company styling themselves "The Rocky Mountain Wonders," consisting of Messrs Christoff, Foley, Palmer and son." Regards, Joy Hildebrand

    Reply: 08 Sep 2011 - Just checked back my old message (ever hopeful for more info). Thanks Joy. I saw some of this newspaper item also. Still in vain hoping to find more about George and his family and maybe a photo one day. Erin

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3484. Lindsey Wilson, clown, 01 Oct 2010 - Greetings: I see the particular Bandwagon edition featuring Lindsey Wilson is no longer available. Desperatley seeking photo of great grandfather, clown with Barnes and Carruthers. Born 1881, appears to have worked well in to the 20th century, possibly in to late 1960's. Any help appreciated. email: kruzat@aol.com. Tere Kruza. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3483. Peanut vendor speil, 28 Sep 2010 - My father went to the circus when he was a child sometime in the late 20's or early 30's. He would occasionally break out into a vendor's attempt to sell peanuts. It went as follows: "a zebra has 13 stripes around his belly and one around his ASK your mother for 15cents to see the elephants PEANUTS 5 cents a sack." Another one went "look out lady don't step in that SHAME on you boys for shoving straw up that monkeys ASK your mother for 15 cents to see the elephants PEANUTS 5 cents a sack." None of us kids can remember any of the others. I am wondering if there is a more complete version of these vendors speils or was it up to the individual to make up there own selling talk. My father passed away 5 years ago. He would have been to a circus most likely in North Central Kansas. Thanks for any info. Curt Parry. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3482. Chamberlain & Rich, 28 Sep 2010 - In the 1894 summary there was a circus with the name Chamberlain & Rich. Do you know the full names of the owners? I am interested in the owner with the name Chamberlain. Nothing seems to Google about this circus. Thanks. Jim Sloan. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3481. Employee badges, 27 Sep 2010 - Did Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus use employee badges in 1934 and did it include performers? - Giovanni Iuliani. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3480. Blanch Sloan, 27 Sep 2010 - Blanch Sloan (maiden name) - worked for Barnum and Bailey, and perhaps others. She listed her occupation as aerialist on an early census. Famous brother, James Forman (Tod) Sloan, brother - Isaac Fremont Sloan - and Cassius Sloan - horse jockey/trainers. If you have information please contact me wilsonvyki@yahoo.com. Victoria. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3479. Red lighting, 27 Sep 2010 - Was red lighting really done back in the early days . . . ’30’s? Audrey. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 29 Sep 2010 - Many slang words are the result of actions or events, but finding out how they originated can be quite elusive unless they are documented somewhere and/or catch on with a large group or the general public — and even then there are no guarantees. Most popular phrases die very quickly too
        Cassell's Dictionary of Slang shows the phrase originated as a verb in the US in the 1930s as a way to kill someone by pushing him or her from a moving train or automobile (there really was a red light involved; the red marker lamps on the train’s caboose or observation car, or the taillights of an automobile).
        What’s odd is that it doesn’t show up in any online jail/prison, railroad or hobo slang lists (closest thing among hoboes was "hit the grit"), so it could simply be the imaginings of a scriptwriter or detective novelist that caught the attention of some of the general population — for a little while any way.
        The phrase appears in McKennon’s book of circus slang so it was known and used by some circus employees, but if I remember correctly, he compiled the original list around 1939-40 (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). Author Charlie Hill, who traveled with several shows in the 1920s and 30s mentions "red lighting" in his 1920s-era novel "First of May" (based on his experiences, but written many years later). In the book, the leader of the grift threatens to red light one of his former employees if he sees him on the train that night, and the other characters know exactly what he means.
        Did it happen? My impression is that circus workingmen came and went all season, with no questions asked if they just didn't show up one morning. We'll probably never know for a fact, as anyone who participated in the tossing wasn't about to talk, nor would anyone who was tossed — assuming they survived. Railroads were (and are) very dangerous places, so finding a body along the tracks, local authorities would probably rule the death was accidental, and any obvious physical injuries were simply the result of being hit by or falling from a passing train. Lance Burton

    Reply: 02 Oct 2010 - In the early years there was a hold back on the employees wages. The theory was that it would be paid to them upon their return to winter quarters at the end of the season so they would have money on the off season. But some unscrupulous employers would eliminate some of the working men on the way back to winterquarters so they did not need to do the pay out. Ned Kronberg

    Reply: 17 Oct 2010 - There are secondary references to circus examples of the practice documented in the 1890s. The practice of tossing people from a moving train likely originated with the railroads' handling of illicit riders. Other than the documentation that Joe Bradbury found in regard to red lighting on the Robbins Bros. show on a "home run," I've never seen any substantiation that showmen resorted to the practice to eliminate end of year holdback payments to workingmen, or anyone else. Fred Dahlinger.

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3478. Hanna Mazes, 27 Sep 2010 - Hi, I am looking to find Hanna Mazes -Polish tiger trainer, he was bitten by tigers in 1972-3 year in Warsaw! Ramona Dimcheva. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3477. Bear Tamers, 24 Sep 2010 - I am looking for American descendants of the French Bear Tamers form the Pyrenees Mountains who came to America with their bears from 1870 to 1920. Many joined the circus with their bears or became lion or tiger tamers. Here are a few names: Rogalle, Souquet, Amiel, Barat, Sirgant, Andreu, Geraud etc. The research is hard to do beacause many worked under show names. Thank you, F Rogalle. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 09 Nov 2010 - My great grand father Jean Broue came as a Bear Tamer in 1886 in the USA and Canada. He was from Oust in Ariege, Pyrenees et was performing with Alfred Rogalle from Erce in Ariege, Pyrenees. He got married in Canada in 1890 and lived in the USA and Canada until his death in 1932. I would be pleased to know more about them or the others French Bear Tamers. Thank you. Louise Page, ellepage@sympatico.ca, Montreal

    Reply: 28 Dec 2010 - Thank you for answering Louise. Alfred ROGALLE was indeed a bear tamer from OUST, in the hamlet of ARROUS, France and he performed in the USA around 1880-1890, with his brother Pierre ROGALLE. As did André GERAUD PARRACHA, Afred GERAUD Oulibé and many others of this village. I dont know though exactly where they performed. Françoise

    Reply: 13 Feb 2011 - Je cherche des descendants de montreurs d'ours venant de l'Ariege en France F. Rogalle [attempted translation: I am looking for descendants of the bear leaders from the Ariege in France F. Rogalle]

    Reply: 17 Jun 2014 - My great-grandfather and his brother were bear tamers from France (Erce, I believe). My great grandfather was Girons Amiel and my uncle was Jean Amiel. My grandfather didn’t like to talk about family history much, but I believe that Jean arrived in the US between 1895 and 1905 with his younger brother (my grandfather). I would love any further information you might have. My family has been attempting to put together a genealogy for my dad, but we get cannot find any information prior to 1880. Warmly, Lindsay

    Reply: 25 Oct 2014 - About Girons AMIEL, I have a lot of informations since I go in Ercé once a year. Please write to me. Lindsay, FKLEWIS@sympatico.ca

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3476. Meers Sisters, 22 Sep 2010 - Good morning, My name is Grant J Freeman I live in Wales UK, Im currently researching my family tree and have discovered that my Great Grandmother was one of the Meers Sisters, I would be very grateful if anyone that has any information or if I can share information about my family could contact me gjfreeman2467@hotmail.co.uk. I look forward in anticipation. Yours, Grant J Freeman. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 23 Sep 2010 - Look for the poster Barnum and Baily “the Meers sisters at www.circusmuseum.nl. H.Best-Otte

    Reply: 25 Sep 2010 - Which of the Meers sisters are we talking about here? Dave

    Reply: 25 Sep 2010 - Dan Draper published a history of the Meers Sisters in the CHS journal "Bandwagon," May-June 2005, pages 21-25. It's available for purchase as a back issue. For further background material, Dan Draper resides in the Jacksonville, FL area. Fred Dahlinger

    Reply: 25 Sep 2010 - The British-born Meers sisters – Marie, Alice Jennie, Flora and Lilly – were the daughters of Hubert and Adele Meers and together were one of the preeminent equestrian acts of the late 19th and early 20th Century. In 1868 Hubert Meers was recorded throwing 42 consecutive backward somersaults at a performance in Paris. The sister act was a headliner on Barnum and Bailey starting in the season of 1891. During the decades surrounding the turn of the 20th Century the act also appeared in the US at various indoor circuses, including the “Doris Winter Circus” of 1897. One of the sisters, Marie, was married to equestrian George Brown during their time on Barnum & Bailey in the early 1900s. She later remarried and at the time of her death in Bradenton, Florida on December 30, 1947 Marie Meers Brown Dahm was still working with a trained animal act on the Polack Bros Circus. Marie Meers’ son, Robert Brown, was the concession manager for Royal American Shows carnival during that period. Chris Berry, circusposters@gmail.com

    Reply: 03 Oct 2010 - Hi Dave, My great grandmother was Emily Meers. She did not move to the states with the rest of the family. Grant.

    Reply: 23 Mar 2013 - Mr. Freedman, My great grand mother was Lillie Meers. Lillie's daughter, Eva was born in Cuba in 1899. Eva was my Grandmother. I have some additional information on the Meers sisters. Was Emily Meers also known as Wally? Yes Wally was a female. I have a photo of Lu Lu and Wally, to share, from their British Skating act. Do you know the birthday of your Great-great grandfather, Hubert Meers? Robert

    Reply: 25 Mar 2013 - Eva was born in Mexico and not Cuba. Robert

    Reply: 15 Sep 2014 - Hi Grant, my great grandmother was also Emily Meers. My grandfather Charles Smith married Rose Caroline Freeman, one of her daughters. My mother's christian names are Emily Meers. John

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3475. Circus, Australia 1889, 21 Sep 2010 - My name is David (in Australia). I am wanting to know of a circus that would have performed in Wigton, Cumbria, U.K. in 1889. My fathers mother - Sophia Pearson reputedly ran away with the ringmaster. Any info. would be much appreciated. Thanks in anticipation. David Pearson. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3474. Circus Scott 1966, 20 Sep 2010 - Ich war 1966 als Zeltarbeiter beim Circus- Scott in Schweden. Habe die ganzen Unterlagen verloren! Ich möchte aber die Route der Tour nachfahren als Erinnerung. Vielen Dank. viktor.kollroser@gmx.at. [Translation: I was working in 1966 as a tent at Circus Scott in Sweden. Have all the documents lost! But I would like tracing the route of the Tour as a reminder. Thank you. viktor.kollroser@ gmx.at.] Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 21 Sep 2010 - As you may know Circus Scott closed after season 2003. A Swedish website http://medlem.spray.se/cirkusscott/ contain a lot of info about Circus Scott. Another possibility to get info is to contact Henry Bronett (grandson of the late Käte Bronett, who owned the circus in 1966). His email-adress is henry@bronett.com. Ole Simonsen, www.circus-dk.dk

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3473. Timothy Lawler, 20 Sep 2010 - Am trying to locate info about Timothy Lawler, worked as a clown, contortionist, wire walker. Although the three different acts don't seem likely, that is the only info I have. He apparently seesawed between circus and vaudeville? early 1900's, died in 1936 Columbus Ohio. Thanks! Marcene. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 25 Nov 2010 - Hello Marcene: Actually the possibility that Lawler performed as a clown, contortionist and a wirewalker is VERY likely in the time frame that you indicate. Many clowns were trained acrobats and other types of specialty performers such as jugglers, contortionists, wirewalkers, aerialists, animal trainers, etc. Many circuses of the period would advertise a “Congress of Clowns” or specific numbers such as 50 or 100 clowns with their shows and this didn’t mean that they carried that number of individual clowns, rather any performer might don make-up to appear in the clown gags just to increase the numbers for the benefit of their advertising and audience. If Lawler worked his contortion and wire-walking acts “straight” in one half of the performance, he might also appear in the other half as a clown in order to increase his earnings. In some cases, the more you appeared in the show, the more money you would make. Lawler also may have worked his contortion and wire-walking acts in his clown make-up, especially if there was an element of comedy in the other acts as well. Most circus performers were and are multi-talented and could work many types of acts. I remember growing up and seeing large tent shows such as Carson & Barnes Circus that had 5 rings and in some cases, a single performer would appear up to 8 or 10 times doing different acts within a single show. Again, the circus in America during the time frame you’re talking about often was more about quantity to fill all of the rings rather than anything else. The American way has always been ‘Bigger is Better’ hasn’t it? – Neil Cockerline

    Reply: 05 Mar 2013 - Hello. I am the great grandson of Timothy Lawler. I would also like to learn more information. It appears I know as much as you do. Feel free to contact me if you find anything. Cheers, Joe Lawler

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3472. Felix Adler, 20 Sep 2010 - I am looking for information, anecdotes and/or photos of Felix Adler and his piglet(s). The photos do not need to be high quality. I will be using them for sketching references. Thanks! Sandra. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3471. Joe Louis, Dailey Bros. Circus tour 1950, 18 Sep 2010 - Would any have any information concerning the boxing exhibition tour of Canada that former heavyweight Champion of the world, Joe Louis did with the Dailey bros. Circus in 1950? The Newspapers reported he was paid One Thousand dollars a day for it. He did 2 exhibitions a day for the circus for at least a month, May 24-June 24, 1950. I would be interested in knowing the names of the men who went into the ring with him for that tour and in which cities in Canada. Thank you, K.C. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 20 Sep 2010 - K.C. - The reported deal was Louis was to go first to South America for an exhibition tour of 10 bouts then tour with Dailey Bros. Circus in Canada from May 24 until Aug. 10, where he would "appear in a matinee act, working six days a week showing the tactics of boxing, etc." I could find no mention of who went into the ring with him on his South American trip. - Tom H.

    Reply: 27 Nov 2010 - Joe Louis was on Dailey Bros. in 1950 on their Canadian tour. Ben davenport turned his private car over to Louis who filled it with working girls. I have photos of him standing on the vestibule of his train coach in Kitchener, Ontario. I have not seen any photos of him in the ring under the big top and don't know if he boxed anyone or just was introduced to the crowd.
        Dailey Bros. carried a lot of grift and burnt it way through Canada in 1949. On the return visit it was much harder to re-book many of the towns shown in 1949 and business was bad. Some towns wouldn't let the show set-up with in the town limits and there were often out in some farmer's field rather than close to public transportation, etc. I don't think Louis made the whole Canadian tour. For the Canadian tour, the show did print a special circus herald that featured Joe. Al Stencell

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3470. Loyal Repensky family, 17 Sep 2010 - My name is Adriana Frugone Subercaseaux, I am Chilean, my Grandmother was born in Bolivia and arrived in Chile in 1917, her name was Carmen Loyal Palacios, daughter of Antoine Loyal Repensky, son of Jules Loyal. Antoine was born in Paris. His birth certificate reads 1868. I have been checking your webpage and found a Jules and Zefta Loyal Repensky that I believe might be related to him. Please advise how should I proceed to find further information. Many thanks in advance, Adriana Frugone, Santiago, Chile. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3469. Harmston & Isako Circus performers, 17 Sep 2010 - It must have been in the years 1931-32, and I was living in the town of Soerakarta, or simply "Solo" as the local people called it, Mid-Java, former Dutch East Indies. That time we had performances of the Harmston and Isako Circus. The circus performances were excellent, and as a young teener boy also very impressed by 2 girls, about my age, from Harmston or Isako. I just wonder if they are still alive. Met vriendelijke groeten, Ortwin Louwerens, ortwinl@gmail.com. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3468. Kerosene pots, route, 16 Sep 2010 - I have heard about circuses setting pots possibly fueled by kerosene along the route to the train at night. I believe that these pots were used to show the teamsters or truck drivers the edge of the road and turns. I understand that the pots were distributed by the first wagon going to the train and picked up by the last wagon off the lot. Can anyone verify this information and provide a description of the pots? Thanks, Dick Britton. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 17 Sep 2010 - Not sure about the distribution/pick up, however these are mentioned in several period recollections. Similar to the old practice of railing the road, the 24 hour man would draw chalk arrows on poles or lampposts to guide the show to the lot by day, while "flares" were placed at night to show the correct direction & street on which to turn. I suspect these were actually "kerosene road flares" (also known as "smudge pots" but not the same used in orchards) made by various lamp companies such as this one:

    http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/lamp-lantern-torch-toledo-road-flare-67520943

    They were basically a round reservoir several inches in diameter, with a flat bottom, and an exposed burner at the very top. Although not always weatherproof, I recall seeing these used on road projects in the 1960s. Knock-offs are still made today, chiefly as a mosquito-beater or patio light. Lance Burton

    Reply: 18 Sep 2010 - Lance is correct about these being used on road projects up to the late 60's before the battery pack flasher units were used by the different highway depts.,etc. When I was a young lad, my grandfather showed me the different street corners where the different shows had placed them when he was a boy. They would place them on the corner they needed to turn on. He explained to me that the show would sometimes come in on one railroad and leave on another railroad and they would have a different location from in the morning, as they would switch the trains over to a different set of tracks for loading that evening. The last two wagons to leave the lot at night would be the bigtop pole wagon and one of the light plant wagons, which provide the lights for tearing down the show to be loaded. The pots would be loaded into the light plant wagon as it passed each corner. p.j.

    Reply: 20 Sep 2010 - Thank you very much for the explanation about the smudge pots. I will pass along this info to Dom Yodice who is the Question and Answer man for the Circus Model Builders. Dick Britton

    Reply: 21 Sep 2010 - "Logistics of the American Circus" (specifically in the section on the between show load-out) states the job of placing the flares en route to the runs at night was handled by the crew of one of the Mack tractors (trucks), but was apparently done before any wagons were ready to go. This trip appears to have served two purposes, in that the Mack crew would set the flares, and also drove the train crew back to the train after supper. I'd bet the train crew helped out in some way to "pay" for these rides. Lance Burton

    Reply: 21 Sep 2010 - Hello Dick, Not all shows loaded the road flares on the last light plant wagon, as I was trying to explain how it was done and not how all shows did it. For example, on the Ringling show, Wagon #43 (big top pole wagon) had a box on the bottom of the wagon next to the lead bar rack that they would place them in as it went by the corner were it had been placed. p.j.

    Reply: 11 Nov 2010 - You should also check out an early lithograph by the American Regionalist Artist John Steuart Curry, who is associated with the other American Regionalist Artists including Thomas Hart Benton and Grant Wood. Curry travelled with RBBB in the early 1930s and produced a series of oil paintings from sketches he made during his travels. He also produced a series of black and white lithographs of circus subjects, including his earliest that depicted a circus wagon in the dark night background rolling past a kerosene pot in the foreground. This image would have been drawn by Curry from life and it is an excellent rendering of one of these pots in close-up detail. Curry’s other circus lithographs included an image of the Flying Codonas with Alfredo in the midst of an aerial somersault to the hands of his catcher brother Lalo, which he also painted on canvas now in the collection of the Whitney Museum of American Art in NYC; an image entitled, “The Missed Leap” that depicts flyer Antoinette Concello falling into a net after missing a catch; an image that depicts a line of elephants in the menagerie tent; and an image of Clyde Beatty inside the steel cage with a central tiger in front of a series of male lions on pedestals in the background; all of these images can be found in the published catalogue raisonne of Curry’s graphic works. While these lithographs do show up in the art market every once in a while, the two most difficult prints to find are the ones of Clyde Beatty and the one of the wagon behind the kerosene pot, as these were only done in editions of 25 each. The Flying Codonas was done in an edition of 50; the line of elephants in an edition of 100 and “The Missed Leap” in an edition of 250 published by the Associated American Artists Gallery in NYC, probably the best known print publisher in America during the 1930s-1950s. I have all of Curry’s circus prints except for The Flying Codonas, which I have discovered to be the hardest to find. Curry also did a host of other paintings based on his circus experiences, which can be found at museums throughout the world.- Neil Cockerline

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3467. William Smith, Lacelles, 16 Sep 2010 - I am trying to trace my Great Grandfather William Smith who was an acrobat, he married a Caroline Flatan and had a son John William Smith who later changed his name to Lascelles. We know that Caroline Flatan was at my Grandfathers wedding on 15 Nov 1930 Dundee and had remarried as Caroline Green. The wedding certificate says that William Smith is dead in 1930. There is little to no more information. Any help would be appreciated. Alison Demarco. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3466. James F. Wambold, 15 Sep 2010 - I do not know if I am at the correct site. I have more or less been taken to different websites all night by my search for James F. Wambold. I have his old banjo from 1866. I am trying to find the right place to look for photos and any other info on him. He was a minstrel and clown. I believe his last job was for Henry Barnum. He then developed an aliment and had to quit the circus. I would like any help in tracking down any circus pictures of him performing particularly with his banjo. This would be between the years of 1866-1900. Hope someone can help me or send me in the right direction. My children and grandchildren are having a lot of fun trying to track down the history of the banjo and James F. Wambold. Thank you. Midge. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3465. Rufus the clown, 15 Sep 2010 - Hi my name is Crystal Roberts. My gradfather was Rufus the clown for Circus Vargas in the 1980's and 90's. I was just wondering if i can get some info on him, and why is he ot popular anymore or there is nothing about him on your history page. Please email me back. Thank you, Crystal Roberts, crystalrose.roberts@yahoo.com. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3464. Wisconsin circus history, 14 Sep 2010 - Hi, I work for Wisconsin Public Television. I'm currently working on a digital storytelling project in support of Circus, a 6-part PBS series about Big Apple Circus. My project focuses on Wisconsin circus history. I'm looking for past/present Wisconsin residents to share their circus-related stories (and possibly guest blog for us). Anyone interested (or with questions regarding the project) should email me at: amelia.pisapia@wpt.org. Thanks! Amelia. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 28 Sep 2010 - Hello, The first year I was on the road with a circus was in 1981, with the the Franzen Bros. Circus. I have a photo album full of beautiful photos from that year and names of those traveling with the show. There were a few from Wisconsin farms, like Wayne Franzen himself. If you'd like to be in touch please mrggowen@ncia.net or use once_clown@yahoo.com. Marion (Serns) Owen

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3463. Gatini Circus incident, 13 Sep 2010 - I'm looking for more information relative to this incident: May 7, 1978. Rock Forest, Quebec - GATINI CIRCUS. An elephant trainer was killed during a performance when she fell from and was stepped on by a bull elephant. A sharpshooter was brought in to kill the 6,000-pound animal. Another elephant, meanwhile, tore through the circus tent and ran up the main street of Rock Forest, a small town 100 miles east of Montreal. New York Times, May 7, 1978. Connie. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 16 Sep 2010 - Search the 'net for 'Eloise Berchtold' also, start off with a look at messages #136. Morgan Berry, May 04, 2004; #168. Eloise Berchtold, June 13, 2004; # 2847. Eloise Berchtold, 08 Mar 2009 on this website. jim@stockley.co.za

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3462. Timothy Lawler, 12 Sep 2010 - Trying for information Timothy Lawler Clown and wire walker with RBBB circa 1900. Thanks. Marcene. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3461. Elephant Billy, 11 Sep 2010 - I'm trying to trace the career of a Hawthorn elephant named Billy (also spelled Billie). I'm told she performed in Japan and may have injured or killed someone there, but I don't know for certain that that happened or when the incident took place. She also reportedly injured a trainer in Honolulu in 1993. I would appreciate learning which circuses Billie traveled with. She is now in her late 50s, I believe. Many thanks in advance for your help. Carol Bradley, Great Falls, Montana. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 12 Sep 2010 - This elephant was with Cuneo/Hawthorn for her entire career and was retired to the elephant sanctuary in Tennessee some years ago. Dave

    Reply: 15 Sep 2010 - Thanks, Dave, for your response. I'm hoping to find out which circuses Hawthorn leased Billie out to. Do you have any information that might help me? Carol

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3460. Monkey act, Bush Gardens, 09 Sep 2010 - I'm interested in information about two guys that had a monkey act at Bush Gardens, Tampa during the early to mid 1970's. They were neighbors to one of my college room-mate's mother. I remember my room-mate reffering to them as the "monkey boy's". They may have had other animals in their act at Bush Gardens,Tampa Fl. Would like to learn if they are still alive and/or who they are? Dan. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3459. Flying Sullivans, 08 Sep 2010 - Hello, I would like to learn more about Paul Sullivan and his wife Nellie Sullivan, who performed as aerialists with the Flying Wards, and then as the Flying Sullivans. I found them mentioned in the following Bandwagon Magazines: Jan-Feb 1973, Nov-Dec 1986, Nov-Dec 1987, and Nov-Dec 1989. Our family is interested in who they traveled with, how many years they performed, seeking photos, especially one from page 30 of the unavailable Nov-Dec 1987 edition of BandWagon magazine. Thank you for any help or information that you might share with me! Jennifer H., Omaha, Nebraska. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 08 Sep 2010 - Jennifer, you will want to contact the Milner Library at Illinois State University, Bloomington-Normal, IL, contact information can be found here: http://www.library.ilstu.edu/page/870. J. Griffin

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3458. Ida and Henry Crowell, 07 Sep 2010 - I am looking for some friends that I traveled with in the late 50’s, Ida and Henry Crowell. They did trampoline, rode percherons and Ida did acrobatics. Known also as the Riding Arnolds. Have any information on them? Barb Myers. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 09 Sep 2010 - The last I heard from Henry was twenty-five years ago. He was living in Newhall, California, at the time. Dave

    Reply: 29 Oct 2011 - Hello, I have contact information for Henry Crowell. If you contact me directly, I will share it with you. J. Knupp, knuppj11962@att.net

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3457. Francois Brotherton, 07 Sep 2010 - Hi, my name is Jane George (formerly Jane Brotherton) and I would be so grateful if you could possibly help me. I am trying to trace my families link to Francious Brotherton who we believe was a circus performer. She was my dads great grandmother and her son Charles was my dad's uncle. We know very very little, in fact all we do know is the following which we found on your website.

BROTHERTON, FRANÇOIS. Wire-walker, juggler, balancer, tight-rope ascensionist and troupe of trained dogs, Cooper & Chapin, 1874.
    BROTHERTON, CHARLES “MASTER”. Son of François Brotherton. Aerial suspensionist, Cooper & Chapin’s Circus and Menagerie, 1874.

Word of mouth in the family is that when Francois died she was put on view as she was so famous, for people to pay their last respects, but I cannot find anything? I also can't find out any dates or what happenned to the circus or how my great uncle Charles ended up back in the UK. Any help at all would be simply wonderful and any contacts to find pics or more info. Thank you so much. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3456. Barnum, Denver, 04 Sep 2010 - Hi, I am curious to know the connection of PT Barnum and his circus to the Denver area. Don. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3455. Jumbo anniversary, 04 Sep 2010 - The Elgin Military Museum, located just west of the Jumbo Monument, 30 Talbot St. St. Thomas Ontario Canada is opening a new exhibit on September 11,2010. JUMBO, The First Modern Icon commemorates the 125th Anniversary of Jumbo’s death. The exhibit runs till mid December. Email, curator@elginmilitarymuseum.ca. Steve Peters. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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3454. Circus training, equipment, 02 Sep 2010 - I am writing an article on circus training and history of equipment. 1. I have found that Elan Jacques Shermacher was the first to perform on Spanish web. But I can't find any other info on him. When? Where? etc. 2. Also, when did aerial tissue begin. I found 2 very conflicting dates on that, one being 1959 at the French Circus School, another being Andre Simard in 1995 with Cirque du Soleil. Thanks for your time! Beth Brier/Director, Dance & Circus Arts of Tampa Bay, www.danceandcircusarts.com. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 11 Nov 2010 - Hi Beth: Ah, the New Circus! I can certainly tell you that aerial silks existed long before Andre Simard on Cirque du Soleil in 1995, as I was President of the San Francisco School of Circus Arts (now The Circus Center) from 1989 through 1995 and several of the aerial students were already performing on this apparatus in the late 1980s. I would trust your 1959 source as being much more realistic. One thing that I have learned with many performers in the New Circus, is that they have absolutely no knowledge of circus history whatsoever in many cases. This totally baffles me as a circus historian. I remember one performer in SF who was a contortionist and an aerialist who started doing contortion on a single trapeze and within weeks he was claiming that he originated such an act. When he pronounced this to me, I burst out laughing and told him to go look up Albert Powell, who was doing contortion on a single trapeze back in the 1920s! I have been researching another performer by the name of Fred Lasere, who was doing contortion on the single trapeze on Barnum & Bailey around 1910 and probably was practicing the act in his backyard in Ohio in the late 1890s! And I’m sure this was not even the earliest act of trapeze contortion either. I certainly wish today’s Circus Schools would teach their students some circus history, so that the students would have an idea of where they fall into the greater continuum of Circus. Most of the acts that appear today have not invented anything NEW, as much as they would like to think they have in many cases. Aerial silks have become just like Hula Hoop Acts, they’re a dime a dozen and most of them have long since worn out their welcome and many of them should have never started their acts in the first place. If I have to watch one more fat girl clinging to silks and fumbling through ungraceful maneuvers, I will probably stand right up in my seat and scream at her to get the Hell out of the ring! Enough already. – Neil Cockerline

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3453. Ed Jabczynski, teeter-board, 30 Aug 2010 - I’m looking for information about the Ringling Bros. teeter-board group from 1977. Specifically information about a man by the name of Ed Jabczynski. Thank you. Tina & Matt. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 05 Jul 2011 - Hi there was a Eddie in our troupe but his last name was not Jabcynski. It was Sokolaski. Lori.

    Reply: 27 May 2012 - Thank you Lori! Do you happen to have a way to contact him? Tina

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3452. Barnum & Bailey land, 30 Aug 2010 - There was a man who sold a small parcel of land to Barnum and Bailey Circus in Oceanside, NY. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 07 Sep 2010 - ?s this a statement of fact, a question or the first line of a limerick? Can't wait to hear more :-) jim@stockley.co.za

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3451. Frank Mills, 28 Aug 2010 - I am looking for anyone who knew my father Frank Mills. He was the canvasman on Olson and Link Shows in the late 60's and early 70's. Any info will be greatly appreciated. Heather Mills, HeatherMills@insightbb.com. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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