4691. Great Orlando, 20 Oct 2016 - I have a newspaper clipping found in my late grandmothers belongings. She died in 1965 and the clipping has always had me wondering. There is no newspaper name, but it tells of The Great Orlando who was a trapeze artist with a circus in Hull at the time. He collapsed in the street and was attended by a young lady (I assume as my grandmother kept the clipping it may have been her). I know she lived in Hull when she was young. Any information on him would be good. It's always been told in the family that she wanted to call my father Orlando, but grandad wouldn't have it. HOWEVER. Mix up the letters for Orlando and and it's pretty near Roland which was the name they agreed to in the end. Pamela Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 24 Oct 2016 - Nothing appeared regarding the incident in a simple Google search, New York Clipper, Billboard, Fulton History, etc. Your best chances for discovery would be to search Hull newspapers in the British historical newspapers website. It is accessible at British libraries and at larger city and university libraries in the US. Sometimes the printing on the reverse side of a clipping car serve to date it. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4690. Jordan Circus, 17 Oct 2016 - I recently purchased a collection of handmade wooden trains & toys. The train set has eight cars that are labeled either Jordan Circus and/or Jordan Brothers Circus. The woman I purchased these from said her father and his siblings made and played with these items (assuming from the 1930's-1940's). Her family supposedly was part of the management team. I can not find any reference to the Jordan Brothers Circus in any of my research. Any information if this was an actual circus and any background would greatly be appreciated. They are not affiliated with the Jordan World Circus that currently travels the South/Southwest states. The items were purchased in Northern Illinois. Thank you - Scott Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4689. Sparks Circus, 17 Oct 2016 - I would like to know some history of the Spark's Circus in the 1940's. We live in Stokes Co unity of N.C and understand they wintered here. Too, we had a great aunt that was married to the owner of the circus at one time. She told tales of them wintering in New London, N.C. They repaired costumes etc. Would like to know where to find more information. Too, there use to be tales of an elephant that had to be killed, I think her name was Mary. Would appreciate any information. Thank you, Amie Hampton Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 24 Oct 2016 - The Sparks circus was founded by John H. Wiseman and a man that used the name Charles Sparks. They toured using the name by 1887, though it wasn’t quite a circus until later. They originally were based in East Brady, Pennsylvania. Wiseman and Sparks were married to sisters named Mitchell from East Brady, PA. Perhaps another family member later married someone from Stokes County?
About 1900 Wiseman acquired property near Vade Mecum Springs, Stokes County, NC that he used as a personal retreat, with the likely intention to build it into a complete resort. He died from the effects of an animal bite in 1903 and the property was sold off in 1908. A gentleman named Steve Shelton has been doing important primary research work on the Wiseman presence in Vade Mecum. A 1990 tertiary summary by others can be read here: https://mbasic.facebook.com/notes/stokes-county-historical-society/history-of-vade-mecum-springs/129082183829825/ I don’t know of any specific connection to New London, NC.
Sparks and Wiseman’s descendants carried on the circus after Wiseman’s 1903 passing. It was wintered in Salisbury, NC in the winters of 1910 to 1915, and again in 1918.
Mary was an Asiatic female elephant with the Sparks circus that was put to death in 1916 after she killed someone. Inflammatory stories based on inaccurate information, supplemented by a faked image of her hanging, are periodically revived online and in print. They have obscured the truth surrounding the episode, as well as impugning the good character of Charles Sparks. He is generally regarded as a showman’s showman, one of the most highly regarded circus proprietors of his time.
The 1946-1947 Sparks Circus was owned by James Edgar. He was unrelated to the Wiseman and Sparks families, leasing the name from the Ringling interests. That show was organized in Arcadia, Florida and wintered in Venice in 1946-1947. A now dated, introductory article about the Sparks name and title, as well as coverage of the 1946 tour can be read here: http://www.circushistory.org/Bandwagon/bw-1964Nov.htm The 1947 season has also been the subject of an article and so has the Venice operation. You can read 1946-1947 coverage of the Sparks show in Billboard magazine, accessible with key word searching on Google Books Advanced Search.
There are numerous articles about the various Sparks operations and tours in Bandwagon magazine. You can locate these in the article index on this website. There is also coverage in White Tops, journal of the Circus Fans Association. These articles, which include a pictorial feature on the families, can also be found in an index on this website. Back issues are often available for purchase, or copies can be ordered from institutions with holdings of the journals. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4688. William Sholes, equestrian, 03 Oct 2016 - I'm writing to ask if you have any information about equestrian William Sholes. He and Annie Oakley were good friends and she testified in court for him. I'd like to know what the hearing was about. Could you help? Thank you, Chris Enss Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 17 Oct 2016 - If you look for William Showles, with a “w,” via a simple Google search you will discover an abundance of information about this once famous bareback rider. Start with message 4393 on this board. There’s also an entry here in the CHS virtual library in Slout’s “Olympians of the Sawdust Circle.” An extended biography by John Daniel Draper is in the CHS journal, Bandwagon, Jan-Feb 2001, pages 19-23. His references can be seen here: http://www.ringlingcircus.org/equestrian/ A portion of the Showles wardrobe is preserved at Princeton University. The friendship between Showles and Oakley may have been rooted in their New Jersey origins and intermittent residency, and later visits to Long Branch. Both had been with the Sells Bros. Circus, but at different times.
Showles was divorced from his first wife, equestrienne Sallie Marks, on July 1, 1887; his second wife rider Daisy Belmont died in 1896; and he was then divorced by his third wife Hilda in 1899. The UK National Archives has a document concerning the last action, viewable on www.ancestry.com.
Showles was indicted by a grand jury in Monmouth County, NJ for manslaughter as the result of a gun accident on Christmas Eve, December 24, 1896, in Red Bank, NJ, which claimed the life of a friend, Ansel Croft. Showles had a revolver with a patented safety mechanism that failed to work when he slammed it on a bar counter. Before he passed, Croft stated a desire that no action be taken against Showles for the accident, which a majority on a grand jury determined was criminal negligence. He was acquitted in Freehold, NJ on February 20, 1897. The most detailed coverage I found online was in issues of the New York Clipper, but they don’t mention courtroom testimony. It’s possible that Oakley may have used her married name to avoid attention. I searched for reference to Oakley’s testimony on behalf of Showles, as a character witness, but nothing turned up. Further searching in newspapers or a court transcript may yield your desire. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator mof Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4687. Aerial rope performance, 03 Oct 2016 - My name is Roy Gomez. I'm finishing a PhD in Performance Studies at Northwestern University in Chicago with a research project on circus performance. While my project is fundamentally ethnographic (interviews and participant observation), I am deeply invested in understanding the circus history, which I believe is key for any circus research project regardless its methodological approach. Specifically, one of my dissertation chapters focuses on aerial rope performance (corde-lisse). I do want to have a very good grasp about lineages, traditions and overall, the evolution of rope as a "circus discipline" (would you call it differently?). So, I am very interested in gathering information about when this kind of circus acts emerged? Which are the most outstanding rope performances presented in the US circus history? How does this "circus discipline" evolved? I'd be very grateful of only having your thoughts around this, and also if you have suggestions about: has anyone explored the history of rope in the circus? Does someone have information or leads to rope artists/performances? Do you have any suggestion about archives about the circus specialized in aerial acts? I sincerely appreciate your answers/suggestions. - Roy. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 17 Oct 2016 - Volumes that cover the history and development of performance include: Thayer’s “The Performers”; Hippisley-Coxe “Seat at the Circus”; Steve Gossard’s book on trapeze history [he’s affiliated with Illinois State University—Milner Library]; Speaight’s and Thetard’s general histories of the circus; and others. Thayer covers act development in the American circus 1793-1860, the above volume supplemented by his “Annals of the American Circus 1793-1860.” You might also check with Dominique Jando at Circopedia, as well as others whose works focus on the circus performance arts. It is exceedingly difficult to rate performances as there was no established criteria to do so, and such presentations have taken place across more than a century of time. At best search for published commentary, in the Spirit of the Times, New York Clipper and period newspapers for reviews and commentary. Also be advised that rope performance wasn’t confined to circus, but was also on the variety stage, etc. Searching for prints and engravings of the act, in newspaper ads, illustrated newspapers, etc., will prove useful. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4686. Circus, New Zealand, 03 Oct 2016 - I am looking for information regarding a circus that possibly performed in New Zealand around March - April 1977. My interest is in finding a relative. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you, Penny Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 17 Oct 2016 - The limited number of troupes touring in 1977 might enable you to zero in on one of interest, but in general “people” searches are better answered by posting the person’s name. That is generally how show veterans and others recall people. The show affiliations, and especially specific years can be forgotten. It’s also possible that what one person terms a “circus” is what another knows as a fun fair or carnival. Yes, I’m aware, people who did not want to be identified used aliases, nicknames and other identification to conceal their true identity and thereby avoid discovery. In those instances other “characteristics,” such as appearance, job or tasks, wardrobe, a known pet, an associate or partner, etc., might be the only way to confirm their presence.
Papers Past, https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/, the archive of digitized New Zealand newspapers, goes only as recently as 1949, so you’ll need to seek 1977 holdings by other means. Here are some possibilities that turned up in a simple Google search for “New Zealand newspapers 1977”: http://www.wcl.govt.nz/pathfinders/newspaper.html; http://www.aucklandlibraries.govt.nz/EN/heritage/collections/newspapers/Pages/newspapers.aspx. You may need to hire a researcher to scan the newspapers for advertisements of the show. Perhaps various NZ libraries have finding aids, clipping files or other material that can provide a direct route to 1977 show information? Perhaps someone who has done other research in NZ in that time frame can provide insights on useful techniques? Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4685. Magic act, circus, 03 Oct 2016 - I am a magciain and collector and I am for years looking for a footage that I found recently that exist, on a magician. He performed a comedy act and his name was Jay Palmer. His act was performed with Doreen, his wife, and his famous piece was the magic kettle trick. I assume (and from what I was told) that the act was taped in 1957, on "la piste aux etoiles". I would like to know if is there any record or more precise information about this issue please. - Miguel Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4684. Zelda Boden, 03 Oct 2016 - A picture of Zelda Boden has been circulating and I was researching for my own satisfaction. I have a hunch she is the wife of Art Boden, trickrider. The Zelda Boden that appears to be his wife is born on 1905 and he in 1888. I thought it was just a coincidence but she first appears with him (that I can find ) in 1923 as his sister. The photos that are taken of her are most likely 1924 (although many on the web is 1910s). I find them traveling later together to England as husband and wife and due to the age difference, etc I am pretty sure not siblings. I thought it unlikely they were one in the same but I find him performing in circuses so I think Zelda from the images and Mrs Zelda Boden, wife of Art are the same. He seems to be Henry Arthur Boden from Kansas. There is a reference to her as Mrs Art Boden in the magazine. Is there a photo? - Rebecca Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 17 Oct 2016 - The 1924 date for the beguiling Frederick W. Glasier photographs of Zelda Boden (one included in the 2009 book “Circus, The Photographs of Frederick W. Glasier, pages 72-73) was derived from the identifications applied by Glasier to the margins of his negatives. They are not included in published prints. While he is best known for the larger body of circus views made 1900-1910, Glasier was also active in the 1920s. The endlessly repeated 1890s, 1900s and 1910s dates can be dismissed as web-born and perpetuated fiction.
There’s a genealogical post about the Bodens that provides insights: https://www.reddit.com/r/Genealogy/comments/54m5t1/zelda_boden_circus_performer/ We derived some of these observations from it. More could be garnered from www.ancestry.com searching.
1900 data Henry A. Boden, age 12, listed as born July 1887, residing in Montana Township, Jewell County, Kansas, 4th child, 3rd son of Henry C. Boden, 56, born Indiana (Ohio born father, NY born mother) and Mary J. F. Boden, 43, born Iowa (Indiana born parents). [1900 census]
1917 data---Boden was listed as Henry Arthur Boden, born July 13, 1886 at Webber (Jewell County), KS, when he registered for the draft at Oakland, CA on June 1, 1917. He was then aged 30, single, an “actor” with the Texas Round Up Company working on the Pantages vaudeville circuit. He was described as short and slender, with olive eyes, brown hair and slightly bald. A slight rupture and blood disease may have disqualified him from service. He also had a broken shoulder bone, foot and finger, one or more of which were not properly set [draft registration].
1928 data---Zelda Boden’s birth was reported as February 22, 1905, Harrison, NJ (Hudson County, suburb of Newark) and Arthur Boden was listed as born July 14, 1888, Webber, KS. Their residence was then at 504 Bowery Street, Iowa City, IA [1928 immigration, ship Majestic from Southampton, England, June 13-19, 1928, arriving NYC].
The chronology of Boden’s career that follows was abstracted from entries in trade journals and newspapers, some on Fulton History and lacking exact dates. There are more entries but these provide a general representation. More will also be garnered from checking Billboard magazine between 1922 and 1942. Further entries for the Bodens might be found in the name finding aids at Circus World Museum.
Years?? Buffalo Bill’s Wild West, or Buffalo Bill’s Wild West and Pawnee Bill’s Great Far East
Years?? Ringling Bros.??
In 1938, “Art” Boden visited the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, NY. Then resident in Hollywood, CA, he related that he’d been with Buffalo Bill’s Wild West and Ringling Bros., where he was a cowboy in 1907 or 1908. Boden said his family resided in the Cooperstown area until they moved to the far west, he being raised on a ranch. [Otsego Farmer (Cooperstown), October 7, 1938] The comment must pertain to his mother’s family, as he was born in Kansas.
1909 Gus Hornbrook’s “Broncho Busters” in vaudeville, formerly with Buffalo Bill’s Wild West [Variety 1909] He spent a decade with Hornbrook.
1910 Art Boden was in vaudeville in 1910, doing exhibition roping, appearing at the American Music Hall in NYC [New York Clipper, May 14, 1910, 341]. He was a member of “Arizona Joe and company,” a quartet that did “A Glimpse of Prairie Life.” It included high school rider Adele Von Ohl, Boden, Broncho Bob on a bucking horse and quartette singing. They were complimented further [Clipper, May 21, 1910, 361].
1911 Boden was with the Cheyenne Days Company playing the Orpheum circuit [NY Dramatic Mirror, July 19, 1911, 21]. Boden, “Wyoming’s Champion Roping Expert,” appeared in a San Francisco vaudeville house as part of Gus Hornbrook’s Wild West Show doing “Cheyenne Days” [San Francisco Call, September 3, 1911]. Included in the group were Lucille Mulhall and Otto Kline, the tragically-killed spouse of circus aerialist Tiny Kline.
1912 In Australia with wild west feature with Wirth Bros. Great Australian Circus [Billboard, August 31, 1912, 4] It’s confirmed that by 1917 Boden had been to Australia [Billboard, May 19, 1917, 28]
1914 Boden and company did an appearance at the Hippodrome, another vaude house, in Los Angeles, CA [Clipper, March 7, 1914, 22.
1915 Sells-Floto circus, when Buffalo Bill was with it; left to join Cheyenne Days [Billboard, June 19, 1915, 57; August 28, 1915, 62]
c1915 Gus Hornbrook’s Wild West, rider, at local fair [Richfield Springs (NY) Mercury]
1917 Gus Hornbrook’s Texas Round-Up [Billboard, June 23, 1917, 28]
1919 Al G. Barnes Circus “Chief of Cowboys” [Billboard, May 17, 1919, 39]; Gus Hornbrook’s Wild West at fairs [Billboard, November 8, 1919, 62]
1920 Cy Compton’s “The Passing of the West” in vaudeville [Billboard January 10, 1920, 62]
1921 Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Combined Shows, Cy Compton after show [Billboard, June 11, 1921, __?]
1922 RBBB with Cy Compton’s Wild West concert [Variety, March 31, 1922, 17] Gus Hornbrook’s Wild West, manager of the No. 3 show, on Schubert Time [Billboard, October 14, 1922, 74]
An article is linked above from 1923 that has Art and Zelda together, with California Frank’s Rodeo Attractions, doing an engagement at a Vermont fair, between track races. They were identified as brother and sister, which is surely in error. California Frank was Charles F. Hafley.
Zelda was an iron jaw artist with Andrew Downie’s Walter L. Main Circus in 1924 [Clipper, June 14, 1924, page 12 (program)]. She was in display 16, over ring one. She also worked in the after show concert [Clipper, June 21, 1914, 12 (roster)]. Art Boden also was in the concert, duty unspecified, but likely some sort of western activity, like fancy trick roping.
In the winter of 1925-1925 Art and Zelda were on vaudeville bills as “Art and Zelda Boden presenting ‘A Breeze from the West.’” [Kokomo (IN) Tribune, February 27, 1926] Art and Zelda were with Fred Buchanan’s Robbins Bros. Circus for the 1926 summer season. Zelda was in the opening spec, did iron jaw and trick lariat spinning while Art did a rope act topped by catching four horses with a single throw [Billboard, May 8, 1926, in Bandwagon, Sept-Oct 1981, 8]. They may have established their Iowa residence after completing the Robbins engagement.
Art and Zelda were on the 1929 Downie Bros. circus, she doing swinging ladders, working a white Eskimo dog act, doing iron jaw and with Janie Walters leading the tournament, or grand entrée, as “the girls that keep you guessing.” Art and Zelda were in the Wild West concert. [Billboard, May 4, 1929 in Bandwagon, Nov-Dec 1975, 16, 18].
The outdoor show business tanked with the depression, the number of available jobs being greatly diminished as the number of shows dropped precipitously. The same was true of vaudeville, the bookings for which had been decimated by movies. The Bodens may have been forced to seek more conventional employment. Art may have gotten roles in Hollywood productions, given that he was reportedly a resident there in 1938.
Someone named Arthur Henry Boden passed away in September 1963 in Florida [reported in New York state?]. His birth was then given as July 14, 1887, and his name as Henry Boden. The death index lists a Zelda Burroughs, born February 22, 1905, died September 9, 1996 in Mercer County, NJ (Trenton area). This is not Zelda Boden. Zelda’s passing remains unknown. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4683. Gerettie family, 03 Oct 2016 - Does anyone know anything about the Gerettie family. They were bareback riders and acrobats in the late nineteenth century. Blanche Gerettie married my grandfather's grandfather, the magician and slack wire walker, Jean Seul aka John Edwin Sewell. - Geof Sewell Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 17 Oct 2016 - Refer to message 1553 on this board on the Gerrettie family, including a mention of Blanche. Dr. Turner has passed on and I don’t know if his research notes have passed to a public institution. You might try the Circus Fans Association of Great Britain for insights. http://www.circusfriends.co.uk/ The National Fairground Archive at Sheffield University might have relevant holdings. There’s a single entry Gerrettie here: http://members.shaw.ca/pauline777/Misc.html. Searching via different name spellings will likely yield more hits. Searching digitized British newspapers, including The Era, will likely yield many more.
A quick mention of Jean Seul: https://books.google.com/books?id=AVJNAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA106&lpg=PA106&dq=jean+seul+circus&source=bl&ots=nylAHx3VEv&sig=Jr596Kz8yNUWvcVxEsNWcQUgV5E&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi1poLg5cjPAhUp74MKHdW3D9UQ6AEIKTAB#v=onepage&q=jean%20seul%20circus&f=false If you can access World’s Fair it will likely be helpful for early 20th century activity. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4682. Oswaldo "Waldo" DeSoto, 03 Oct 2016 - I am looking for any and all information about my grandfather, Oswaldo "Waldo" DeSoto, and his wife, Maria Martinez. I know very little about them and would like to know as much as possible. I do know that they traveled through Texas and California through the early decades of the 1900s. Waldo owned the circus and his wife would wear a spider costume and climb during her performance. This is all I know and I am trying to get this information for my aging father. Ref: Oswaldo DeSoto and Maria Martinez, their traveling circus would have been in the 1930's. Thank you, James Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 17 Oct 2016 - I tried to locate the names of your grandfather and his wife within the outdoor show business, without success. Many shows that operated through the 1930s left little behind, in terms of surviving business records and personal papers, and photographs. That is the result of the difficult economic times of the depression, not to mention the difficulty of maintaining an archive when a family is constantly traveling and performing.
If you can determine that they used stage names, or other aliases, and the name of their act[s] and troupe[s], that would be very helpful. Armed with as much knowledge about their names, acts and troupes as possible, contact Pete Shrake at the Circus World Museum library and ask him to check the name finding aid. The other best place to check is Billboard magazine. It’s not readily available online for the bulk of the 1920s and 1930s other than on the paid website ProQuest, Entertainment Industry Magazine Archive. The first couple years, to about 1922, are available on Fulton History, free, as is New York Clipper to c1924 at Illinois Digital Newspaper Collections. You might have some luck in searching digitized newspapers for references to them. Various states have begun to digitize historical newspaper holdings that can be searched free online. California has started the effort. One Los Angeles newspaper is also available on ProQuest. Discerning the name by which they were advertised would be crucial to locating them in newspaper advertising and elsewhere.
Spider and web theming was used with various aerial acts, in the past and unto today, given that it presents a “natural” context for climbing and hanging performance. It was used with trapeze, variations on Spanish web, iron jaw [Earles/Errles, 1922-1923] and perhaps cloud swing presentation. Sometimes the man served as the spider, doing the lifting, and the woman as the fly, being lifted and maneuvered [Napier and Yvonne, 1920]. An example of a spider web prop in a “Spanish web-derived” act can be seen with another 1930s act, that of the Leininger Twins. Use this link and find the c1939 image showing them hanging in front of a web prop: http://ameshistory.org/tribunearchives/ames-flying-twins There’s an online video of a spider-themed contortion/web act. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2vV_PhekcQ The acts were presented on the variety and vaudeville stage, before fair grandstands, at street fairs and with tent shows. These acrobatic performers are separate and apart from the Spidora, spider woman and other similar illusions that were presented in side shows.
I found no entry for a “circus” owned by anyone named DeSoto. It may be a matter of definition. If it was a traditional Mexican/Southwestern “carpa,” conventional circus title compilers may not have included it, generally assigning it an identity as a variety show or tent theater. There’s not a lot of information readily available on the carpas. If their show was a carpa, it likely catered to Spanish-speaking audiences and locales, suggesting the California to Texas area you mentioned. There’s a brief profile here: https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/pqmsq
The Hertzberg Circus Museum started an initiative of their study a couple decades ago, but to the best of my knowledge the collection remains inaccessible, in storage, at San Antonio. Here is a piece based on their work, which includes a good bibliography: http://users.marshall.edu/~brooks/La-Carpa-Garcia.htm You might try searching various volumes, such as Nicolas Kanellos’s works: Hispanic Theatre in the United States (1984); Mexican American Theater: Legacy and Reality (1987); and A History of Hispanic Theatre in the United States: Origins to 1940 (2014). You might on Spanish language resources. You might get lucky and find mention of them, or perhaps a photograph. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringlinbg Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4681. Buffalo Bill circus, 03 Oct 2016 - While doing family genealogy, I found a relation that listed on his World War I draft registration card that his occupation was a foreman for the Buffalo Bill Circus. I have read a lot about Buffalo Bill and his shows. It appears he made a lot of money and became famous over the years, but his show went bankrupt in 1913. Did someone buy out his show after that, or was someone using his name to run another show? The WWI draft registration was in 1917 & 1918. I would love to hear from anyone with knowledge about this circus. Thank you for your help, it is much appreciated. P.S. This relative lived to 86 years of age and died in Gibsonton, Florida, (AKA: the summer home of circus.) Also listed on his WWI draft registration was a question, "Do you claim exemption from draft (specify grounds.") He wrote: Yes - Physical. Dave Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 17 Oct 2016 - The combined Buffalo Bill’s Wild West and Pawnee Bill’s Great Far East came apart in 1913 in a dispute about an alleged overdue bill for printing services. The show was attached and sold at auction in a very messy series of legal actions. The enterprise was largely owned by Gordon Lillie, aka Pawnee Bill, and a partner named Tom Smith. The prelude to the Denver debacle was that Cody had signed a contract to leave the "Two Bills" outfit to appear with the Sells-Floto Circus in 1914-1915. He then moved on to the 101 Ranch for 1916, his last active employment. He passed away on January 17, 1917. His name was used with the “Jess Willard (Himself) and the Buffalo Bill Show Inc.” in 1917. It’s likely that your relation was an employee of the Willard outfit. An illustrated article about it was published in the “White Tops,” the journal of the Circus Fans Association, in the March-April 1965 issue, pages 3-8. Also see message 2435 on this board. Further information can be found in online issues of the New York Clipper and Billboard, as per other postings on this message board. Your relation apparently felt that he had a physical condition that disqualified him from service. That criteria can likely be found somewhere online. Posting the name of your relation might lead to the discovery of additional information. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4680. Escalante circus, 03 Oct 2016 - Our grandfather joined sometime in 1915 or before; he did the tightrope; his name was Jesse Martin dob 1896. We are trying to find some history about our grandfather; he was an orphan that ran away to the Escalante circus, when they were in the Los Angeles area. Would love some info on him. I errored in my first email; it would have been around March or April 1936. Esther Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 17 Oct 2016 - Is Jesse Martin any relation of Jesse James Martin (1852-1912), reported as a circus wire walker; buried in Dinuba, Tulare County, California; husband of Jovia; father of a Jesse Martin (born 1887/1947) and also interred in Dinuba? See: https://www.geni.com/people/Jesse-Martin/6000000000924952337 The best resources to find information will be Billboard magazine, searching for the Escalante title, and local newspapers, that may include mention of Martin in circus advertisements. He may have appeared under a stage name. Check the content in message 98 on this board, about Escalante Bros. The family retains their interest in their circus heritage. Perhaps one of them has documentation relating to Jesse Martin? There is also an Escalante Circus page on Facebook with some images and this will link you to a few images: http://www.thecircusblog.com/?paged=52. Milonga Escalante Cline is still with us (seen in July 2016), perhaps along with other Escalante family members, and possibly one of them recalls Jesse Martin? Perhaps another reader can provide contact information? A Billboard reference related that Escalante Bros. wasn’t on tour 1938-late 1943, likely owing to the war [December 11, 1943, p38]. That may narrow his activity to c1936-1938, unless he south other circus employment. Phil Escalante was a wire walker, as was Chatita/Chata Escalante, and another is illustrated in the circusblog link above. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4679. Clyde Beatty Circus Thin Man, 22 Sep 2016 - I am working on a project where the Clyde Beatty Circus has arisen, specifically in the spring of 1949. Even more specifically, I’m interested in the Thin Man from that era. Would anyone know where to direct me to sources, published or not, so that I could learn more? Many thanks for any tips, Bill Deverell Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 03 Oct 2016 - Your query has baffled the nation’s authority on Clyde Beatty and his circus. Are you desiring information about a “thin man,” meaning a side show employee with Clyde Beatty in 1949? Billboard, a weekly trade journal with circus news, is accessible on Google Books Advanced Search. Bi-monthly issues of the CHS Bandwagon and Circus Fans Association journal White Tops might also include coverage. A quick Google image search revealed several images of the bannerline of the 1949 side show.
Billboard, October 29, 1949, page 72 has an ad placed by Marvin E. Smith, manager of the 1949 side show. In it he listed the entire line-up of employees. The only one listed that might be a “thin man” is “Marvin . . . The Anatomical Wonder.” Smith’s identity as the anatomical wonder is confirmed in another roster in the issue of May 1, 1948, page 62. After being there 1948-1949, Smith lost the Beatty contract for the 1950 tour, his ad immediately above one placed by George “Red” White that sought 1950 attractions. Smith went over to Biller Bros. for 1950. He had also been on Beatty in 1945 and Cole Bros. in 1944. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4678. African American workers, 22 Sep 2016 - Winter Pink Films is producing a 2-part, 4 hour film on the American Circus for PBS’s American Experience series. We are looking for African American musicians who performed in side show bands in traveling circuses prior to 1956. I am looking to speak to former circus workers and performers of African American descent who worked in any capacity on a train traveling tented circus prior to 1956. If this is you or you know of someone, I would greatly appreciate hearing from you. I can be reached at: melissa@winterpinkfilms.com. Many thanks! Melissa Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4677. William Valentine, 22 Sep 2016 - I am trying to find out some information on a circus that went defunct somewhere between 1932-1936 in Florida. My uncle, William Valentine, was placed in the circus by a mean stepmother when he was somewhere between 10-16. The story my grandmother told me was that she had to pay a fee to get him released from the circus and brought him home. Can’t find anything on the internet otherwise. Thanks for any information you can give me. Blessings, Kathleen Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4676. Wheel of Death, 22 Sep 2016 - I am trying to find the circus act that was two brothers (maybe one was named Christian) don't know if they were American or not but, they did the wheel of death or the double wheel of death. I saw them on a tv special where they performed and one did a backwards flip on the top outside of the wheel way up in the air. Please find out who they are because I can't. Thanks! Angela Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4675. Sells-Floto Buffalo Bill, 22 Sep 2016 - I am looking for employee records from the Sells Floto Buffalo Bill Wild West show. Time frame 1915 to 1928. Any pictures of cowboys or snake handlers or helpers of any kind also. Jeanette Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 03 Oct 2016 - If you are seeking a specific individual, you’re better served by posting his or her name, nickname, stage name, alias, etc., rather than asking about resources. Limiting a “person” search by show title can very well exclude the resources that might be most useful. You can do key word searches for people, by name, nickname, variations and stage names in New York Clipper at Illinois Digital Newspaper Collections and in Billboard at Fulton History. These cover from the 1900s into about 1922/1923. If you know for a fact that they were solely with Sells-Floto 1915-1928, then a specific search is appropriate. If you know the location and date of a circus visitation, and not the title, it’s also possible to identify the show in question by searching circus routes.
There is, perhaps, some limited 1920s Sells-Floto employment documentation in the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey business records in the Circus World Museum library. These came into RBBB possession via the purchase of the former American Circus Corp. in 1929. Check for an online collection register, or communicate with librarian Pete Shrake about holdings.
The Buffalo Bill name was a formal part of Sells-Floto for just two seasons, 1914 and 1915, but the name was invoked in advertising a couple times later, in the 1920s. In 1916 Cody was with the 101 Ranch and in 1917 with Jess Willard. That was the end of his show career.
There have been illustrated articles published about most Sells-Floto tours from the mid-1900s origin into the mid-1920s in the CHS journal Bandwagon and the CFA journal White Tops. You can find these in the article indexes and order back copies. The three major public circus collections have also posted images online, on their websites [Circus World Museum, Illinois State University-Bloomington, Milner Library; John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art]. You might also contact the Buffalo Bill Historical Center. There are also many other images online and in various collections across the country. Images can be catalogued by show name, person’s name, or the generic activity illustrated, as well as by the photographer or community. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4674. S.B. Howe circus, 22 Sep 2016 - Looking for information on S.B. Howe’s Menagerie and Circus! Good evening, I am a Toronto, ON Canada based playwright and director currently seeking information on the S.B. Howe circus and their history in particular their organizational structure and any information on the performers from the year 1855. The circus was involved in a riot with a private Toronto Fire Department on July 13th of that year and I would love to gather any background research into their specific history and composition from that period if possible. Yours very sincerely, Tyrone Savage Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 03 Oct 2016 - Stuart Thayer’s book “Annals of the American Circus 1793-1860” provides the broadest coverage of the 1855 Howes tour. It is properly spelled “Howes,” not “Howe’s,” as show did so later. His work was based largely on newspaper resources and such business records as survived and were available to him. The Toronto newspapers will have coverage of the fight. Private fire companies, which preceded publicly-funded firefighters, provided “identity” for members and they were well known for battling each other before they fought the fire. You can supplement Annals coverage with information about the show physical plant in Thayer’s “Traveling Showmen” and the ring show content in his book “The Performers.”
Further information can be found in the anthology of his articles compiled by his close friend and co-author William L. Slout, on the CHS website, in the virtual library. Seth Howes had a long and interesting circus career. You’ll find bio information in the CHS website virtual library, Jeanne Howes book about the Howes family and many other places.
Thayer wrote about a "clem" on another show and there’s much coverage of such “recreational fighting” in period newspapers, and later magazines and books. Academics and scholars have also written and published on the topic. Usually the locals came out on the short end, battling work-strengthened showmen who had to deal with local toughs nearly every working day. They were also prepared in advance, via strategic placement of tent stakes and other implements of non-lethal hand to hand combat. Some battles turned deadly, especially when liquor and firearms were involved; then people died on both sides. In the majority of cases the locals were the aggressors, though the grift practiced by some shows, or the criminals following in their wake surely sparked numerous confrontations.
Of late there has been a Canadian researcher doing work on circuses traveling through the country. You might search for his online postings. Another great resource is Al Stencell, who resides in Toronto. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4673. Al G. Goff, 22 Sep 2016 - Keywords: Al G. Goff - balloon ascension - Golden Gate before bridge was built
I am seeking information on a man named Allen G. Goff. The following information appeared in a biographical sketch published in The Vanished Herd: The History of the Cherokee Strip Cowpunchers' Association and the Cattlemen and Drovers of Early-day Oklahoma.
"In the early 1870's, Goff performed in the John Robinson Circus.... The Robinson Circus, founded about 1871, endured through 1929, and while most of its acts involved wild animals, other top-billed attractions included Goff performing as "aeronaut," or balloon pilot. Goff traveled the United States in an era when manned flight was still a novelty. One of his most publicized performances entailed a balloon ascension "spanning the Golden Gate," the name of the inlet to San Francisco's Bay long before the bridge by that name was built in 1937.
I have created an Ancestry.com family tree for Allen G. Goff and would like to cite the source of the above information. The bibliography of the bio sketch provided the following source but it does not appear to be correct. Parkinson, Bob, Bandwagon, Vol. 6, No. 2 (Mar-Apr), 1962, pp. 4-8. Thanks to anyone who can give me a good source. Martha Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 03 Oct 2016 - The “Old” John Robinson circus was founded in the early 1840s and last toured as a title in the proprietorship of others, the Circus City Zoological Gardens, Inc., in 1930. The Parkinson article you referenced is his version of the founding of the Robinson show, which followed Richard E. Conover’s account in his book, “Give ‘em a John Robinson.” Both of those have since been augmented by Stuart Thayer’s published writings, in his “Annals of the American Circus 1793-1860,” and a Bandwagon article. See: http://www.circushistory.org/Thayer/Thayer3a.htm
Briefly in the 1860s-1870s, like other traveling circuses, the Robinson show possibly featured a balloon ascension as a free act on the lot, to attract a crowd. Such events took the place of a street parade, if it was a reduced scale railroad circus. You can find two articles in Bandwagon about these ascensions, one by Robert L. “Bob” Parkinson (March-April 1961 http://www.circushistory.org/Bandwagon/bw-1961Mar.htm) and another by William L. Slout (Mar-Apr 1996). There are also a couple past queries on this website about balloon ascensions, on this message board, addressing the topic of circus balloon ascensions. They provide additional references.
There are partial performer rosters for the John Robinson show from 1857 to 1893 in the back of Gil Robinson’s book, “Old Wagon Show Days.” Goff is not listed therein, nor is anyone listed as an aeronaut. Goff is also not found in Slout’s circus biographical encyclopedia, “Olympians of the Sawdust Circle.”
Many show aeronauts were not named, or were identified by stage names or aliases. You can try various key word searches with the New York Clipper, available online, free, at Illinois Digital Newspaper Collections and search for anyone named Goff along with balloon, ascension, aeronaut, etc.
The John Robinson circus toured California for the first time in 1882 and played San Francisco, site of the Golden Gate, on August 28-Sept 2. The lot was at Seventh and Mission Streets. The local advertisement made no mention of a balloon ascension, nor was Goff or an aeronaut mentioned. The show returned to California in 1883, with a similar situation concerning Goff and balloon---both lacking. You can peruse some San Francisco newspapers on line about their appearance. http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc
There were several other Robinson—named circus troupes, including Alex Robinson, James Robinson and Yankee Robinson. “Old John” Robinson, out of the Cincinnati, Ohio area, owned the most famous of these shows and was the longest-enduring of them. You can find bios of these and more showmen on the CHS website.
There was a famous balloon ascension staged in San Francisco in 1873 that seems to fit the description given in the book quotation. The passengers were a young reporter named Edwin H. Clough and William W. Austin, a reporter for the San Francisco Chronicle. Their misadventure over the bridge-less Golden Gate can be read in the Sacramento Daily Union, October 20, 1873, page 3, column 4, on the above website, and elsewhere. Is Goff actually Clough? I think not. Clough passed in 1923, his papers from 1919-1922 are at the California State Library. Here’s a tertiary 1882 biography: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=simplicity&id=I40236
An extended account of the 1873 ascension event penned and published by Austin is “Up in the clouds; down in the Pacific,” in The Scrap Book, v.5 (Jan-June 1908), pages 93-99, in Google Books. Austin recalled a mysterious “Professor” Duret, a no-show. No one named Goff was mentioned. https://books.google.com/books?id=ApVRAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA95&lpg=PA95&dq=%22edwin+h.+clough%22+balloon+ascension&source=bl&ots=ceN6y1hIJU&sig=dNsYk5H-xzQqF8yf-GFp4DgfShY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjk68HzoavPAhVo3IMKHZuaBsIQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=%22edwin%20h.%20clough%22%20balloon%20ascension&f=false
A deadly San Francisco ascension took place on October 11, 1874, an account given in the Clippers of October 24 and 31, 1874. The deceased aeronaut was Jos. Gruet, billed as Buislay. Another episode was reported on in the Sacramento Daily Union, July 29, 1877, but with different people involved.
An Allen G. Goff, wife Laura E., is in the 1910 census for Guthrie, Oklahoma. He was age 52 (birth c1858, making him a teenager until 1877 and therefore an unlikely aeronaut), born in Ohio of Ohio parents, employed as a deputy marshal. Perhaps he’s the same fellow listed in the Cherokee Strip Cowpunchers’ Association roster? If this is your man, you need to trace Goff back from that entry. Insofar as the quotation from the 2011 Cherokee Strip book, I recommend that you contact the authors and ask them for the references to their text. Seeing the remainder of the Goff biography might suggest other courses of research. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4672. George Schreiber, 06 Sep 2016 - I am trying to find out information of my Great Uncle's Circus Days as a tightrope walker. His name was George Schreiber and he had a very petite female partner. She fell and died of her injuries, my Great Uncle loved her very much and never married. He lived into his 90's, I only saw him walk the rope a few times at family parties. Any information would be welcome. Thank you. Sincerely, LeAnne Bentley Farjeat Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4671. lille Kaj, 02 Sep 2016 - This could be a long shot. We are looking for information on my partner's father's family. His dad's name was Kaj helt Baarsoe born 1933. He was brought up in the circus industry from a long age of 2 & known as lille Kaj. His sister was Eva who was also in the circus. Their father's name was Svend carlo Baarsoe & mother Inga. We think these details are correct. We are unsure how they both passed away as we can't find any info on the parents at all like birth dates, when & how they died, what they did for a living etc. All we do know is that the family were in Circus Tempo, Circus Schumann & lille Kaj og. Eva's parents died when he was about 12 years old? oh & the name De 4 Svekas comes up. Was this them can you tell me anything about this please any help would be greatly appreciated. Kind Regards, Michelle & Kai Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4670. Eaglesons Jungleland Show, 01 Sep 2016 - I'm interested in any information you might provide about a traveling "Gypsy" troupe in the 1930s who went by the name of "Eaglesons Jungleland Show". They apparently toured all over including Morganton NC and the only other place I've found on the Internet, Zaneville Ohio in September 1939. My wife's family had some interaction with this troupe, who stayed in a boarding house owned by her grandmother in Morganton NC. We have two pictures from the troupe, one of a young woman who appears to be Eastern European, the other is titled "New Born Baby Monkey with Eagleson's Jungleland Show" (it's a monkey holding a newborn monkey...). If you have any information at all about this troupe or can point me in the right direction, you will have my upmost appreciation. Thanks, Greg Morgan Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 02 Sep 2016 - "Jungle" shows enjoyed a specific era of popularity, but were also part of a long tradition of animal presentation and education in the United States. Residents of the hinterlands, with limited access to zoos and even traveling circus menageries found them of great interest. They provided real experience exposure to animals that were often seen and aggrandized on movie screens of the time, whether "King Kong" or the exploits of Clyde Beatty. Exploration in distant lands, the discovery of new species, etc., all fueled the interest in the natural world. The recent flurry of television shows focusing on “wild” animals is the most recent derivative of the enduring human interest in beasts.
The jungle shows trace an origin back to the exhibition of imported foreign and domestic animals in the late 18th century, followed by the organization of itinerant menageries having three or more beasts that start in the early 19th century. Stuart Thayer chronicled the majority of the early animal caravans in two Bandwagon articles. They reached a zenith with the organization of the Zoological Institute in the 1830s, which collapsed in the Panic of 1837. By then animals were becoming an adjunct of the circus, and eventually the independent beast shows either became an adjunct of the circus, as an accompanying menagerie, or took on aspects of circus activity, like ring demonstrations, while retaining the menagerie title to escape circus-banning laws and anti-ring show rhetoric.
Darwin’s theories and the controversy they provoked gave renewal to animal interest, with a special focus on primates and related species, their exhibition being among the rarest experienced in North America. Chimpanzees, bona fide gorillas and other such animals were often the top attractions in the jungle shows.
The giant 90-car Royal American Shows railroad carnival had a gorilla show in some seasons and the big and enduring James E. Strates Shows also featured a wild animal menagerie in some seasons. Their origins date back to the early 20th century, when wild animal shows were the biggest and best of the carnival back end shows. There were other landed animal shows in larger communities, also on world’s fair midways and in amusement zones and parks, like Coney Island.
There were many small animal outfits framed in the post-WWII era. Some just pulled into a community, secured a license, and opened for business. Others may have signed onto a midway playing a route of still dates and fairs, providing a larger audience. They took many forms, from small motorized outfits, in a car, truck and/or trailer, to others occupying several railroad cars. The animals featured also varied. Most were comprised of smaller beasts, but some had elephants. Proprietors and namesakes included personalities like Frank Buck and Howard Y. Bary, and many more that are unknown to everyone but specialists.
In addition to traveling outfits, there were many roadside animal attractions. These date back to the early 20th century and perhaps somewhat before, when there were alligator and ostrich farms in warmer climate states like Florida and California. Some collections, like those at the Selig zoo and World Jungle Compound in Los Angeles, furnished animals for film production. A few circuses opened their winter quarters to guests as early as the 1880s, facilitating winter time viewing of their menageries. Ringling-Barnum had the best such facility when they opened their Sarasota quarters to the public in the late 1920s.
The Eagleson jungle operation seems to be part of traveling carnival history more than anything else. The 1939 engagement was on the Roger Bros. carnival midway. In 1940 they may have been with the Florida Exposition [more below]. There was an Eagleson’s Monkey Circus out of Allendale, SC mentioned in 1943. It had been part of the Crescent Amusement Company midway out of Gastonia, NC. [Billboard, November 27, 1943, 44.] During a 1944 engagement on Crescent the Eagleson’s Side Show was destroyed by a hurricane at Union, SC and returned to Allendale quarters to recover. [Billboard, November 11, 1944, 36.] Crescent Shows again had "Eagleson’s Jungle Circus" in 1945. [Clipper, May 19, 1945, 41.] Eagleson’s Jungleland Show joined the W. C. Kaus Show, a carnival midway, at the McHenry County Fair in Martinsville, WV in September 16-21, 1946. The proprietor was named as George S. Eagleson, with the initials G. S. appearing in some ads. [Billboard, October 5, 1946, 58.] Troy E. Williams, proprietor of Williams Southern Shows of Morganton, NC, sought to gain a response from "Eagleson Jungle Circus" in early 1947, likely wanting to book them for the season. [Billboard, February 8, 1947, 64.] The Eaglesons, quartered in Allendale, SC, visited the Hoxie Bros. circus in 1949, which had the Noells of gorilla fame with them. [Billboard, April 23, 1949, 69.] Eagleson offered to sell a complete monkey, chimpanzee and bird show, in all or part, with a plan to retire from the business in early 1949 and pursue other opportunities. [Billboard, February 5, 1949, 78.] There was a second offering of a dozen monkeys, including two nursing babies, Ringtails, Java and Rhesus for $450. [Billboard, September 10, 1949, 82.] A profile of the new Eagleson Ape Show in the spring of 1951 originated from their quarters in Allendale, SC. The tour was to start May 1 in New England and then take off for the west coast. He had new equipment, a semi-trailer truck that contained all of the cages, along with a working cage space. Featured were four chimpanzees worked by Eagleson and his wife, with a pair of mandrills being added. [Billboard, May 5, 1951, 65.] John Keeler, or Modernistic Shows, sought to hear from Eagleson’s Jungle Circus in 1952. [Billboard, June 2, 1959, 59.] Identifying himself as Eagleson’s Ape Show, he had a snake, reptile and "Big Rat" show framed on a bus, with living quarters in the aft portion in late 1953. [Billboard, November 14, 1953, 67.] A 4-1/2 year old well-trained male chimpanzee, with a large repertoire of acts and capable of being handled by anyone was for sale in early 1956. [Billboard, February 18, 1956, 98.] It appears that the Eaglesons retired from the road sometime in the early 1950s, perhaps retaining or keeping a few animals at their residence thereafter.
Edith Eagleson, of the "Eagleson Ape Show," was identified as the daughter of W. S. M[e?]yers and his wife, the latter who passed away at age 76 in 1959 and was buried in Stoneboro, PA. [Billboard, November 23, 1959, 70.] Edith was the spouse of "George S." Eagleson. The 1940 census gives her age as 27, born about 1913 in Statsboro [presumably Stoneboro], Pennsylvania. Her husband was given as Glomer Sparks Eagleson, age 39. Her gravestone in the Swallow Savannah Cemetery, Allendale, SC provides a birth date of September 28, 1914 and a date of death of May 29, 1981. Her parents were cited as William and Catheryn Meyers.
Glomer Sparks Eagleson, the apparent real name of George S., is interred in the same cemetery. Date of birth is given as April 25, 1900, and death as August 10, 1992. He’s given as the son of Charles Bertie Eagleson (1877-1962) and Lillie Jane Sparks Eagleson (1881-1945). An old newspaper was quoted as saying: "In his younger day, Glomer managed to outrun the Feds whenever they found the moonshine still that he and some of his friends had operated in North Carolina. But he can feel proud - as it was the same type of thing that got NASCAR started." The 1940 census gives his name as Glenn G. Eagleson, age as 39, born about 1901 in Gray, Ohio. They were resident in Allendale, in the Allendale Hotel. His occupation was given as merchant, but the entries for he and Edith were initially made as part of the canvas of the Florida Exposition, a carnival that may have been their employer and was apparently wintering in the community.
How early he may have picked up in the animal trade is unknown. 1930s and early 1940s issues of Billboard magazine can be key-word checked at ProQuest’s Entertainment Industry Magazine Archive, for a fee. It’s possible that residents of Allendale remember him, or there may be clippings in the local Regional and County Libraries, in Allendale. A Glomer Eagleson is listed as a motorcycle racer at Piedmont Park in 1919. [Western Sentinel (Winston-Salem, NC) June 13, 1919) There’s no immediate way to confirm it is the animal man. Some further searching of census records might yield 1920 and 1930 entries for him and/or Edith.
Unless the Eaglesons were bonafide gypsies, the casual pejorative use of “Gypsy” is inappropriate. You can see from the above that they were part of a long heritage of animal exhibition that educated many Americans in the ways and wonders of animal existence and life. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4669. RBBB Bengal tiger, 30 Aug 2016 - I was employed by RBBB circus in the summer of 1980 on the Blue Unit train crew. I’m trying to verify an entry in a journal I wrote about a female Bengal tiger that was going to be retired after the 1980 run. I’ve searched extensively on circushistory.com and google and can find nothing. Can anyone provide a name of the cat and verify that she was actually retired? Thanks, Ralph L. Barger III Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 31 Aug 2016 - Working on the Blue Unit, you would have been talking about the tigers in Charly Baumann's act. Yes, there were some animals that were retired in different years. As to this one particular tiger, I contacted Gary Hill, who worked there taking care of the animals for Charly and Jewell New both to see if he has any ideas. But he had gone to Circus World by 1980 so he doesn't know either. Bob Cline
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4668. Brown & Werner show, 25 Aug 2016 - I recently acquired a photo from the turn of the century that has a tag on it saying: "Brown and Werner show. Brown in carriage. June 14, 1901." The pic was taken in Port Chester, NY and depicts various wagons and people travelling down one of the roads in the downtown area. Was this a circus? Do you have any info. about it? Thank you, Scott, Putnam County NY Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 26 Aug 2016 - Brown & Werner wasn’t a circus, but another form of tented entertainment that traveled overland by horse and wagon. Harriet Beecher Stowe’s 1852 novel, “Uncle Tom’s Cabin,” was dramatized on stage and also under the tent. There were dozens of such itinerant companies under canvas during the heyday. Harry Birdoff wrote the best general book about UTC shows, “World’s Greatest Hit.” Some were very modest, others moved by a small set of railroad cars. Many just rolled into town with their wagon train, to announce their presence, others staged a complete street parade like a circus, or had a steam calliope. The proprietor names were important; they signified the quality of the enterprise, as all were generally telling the same well-known story. The names of the leading actors were usually announced, another harbinger of status. In general, their operational methodologies were cloned from the overland and later the railroad circus. There was interchange between the two forms of entertainment. A knowing look at the train of wagons might indicate the possible origin of the vehicles.
Brown & Werner’s Uncle Tom’s Cabin Co. is mentioned in the New York Clipper, July 13, 1901, 425, as being at South Norwalk, CT. That’s between 15 and 20 miles from where they played on June 14, so they were likely perambulating around the area. If you go to fultonhistory.com, it holds issues of the Port Chester Journal. The issue of June 20 carried a brief article stating Brown & Werner’s Uncle Tom’s Cabin Shows United had been playing to big audiences since they opened the week prior. On the prior Friday night it was claimed that 1200 to 1500 people crowded their tent. The owners were identified as C. C. Brown, of Port Chester and John Werner of Rye. Brown & Werner were still at Port Chester per the June 27 newspaper. The Port Chester Journal of June 20 reported that the Brown & Werner Novelty Co. staged the UTC performance in a tent erected on W. D. Palmer’s open lot located adjacent to the paper factory. UTC may have been just one play in their repertoire.
The name of only one member of the troupe was published. T. F. Kenney left Haney’s UTC at Clinton OH and joined Brown & Werner at Rye, NY, per Clipper, June 29, 1901, 379. He then departed them in favor of another UTC operated by J. L. Warner, spelled with an “at” then at Rye, NY. The July 27, 1901 issue, 463, advised that Kenney closed with Werner and moved on to the Goodrich circus at Nyack, NY.
Local newspapers may provide advertisements and other information about their appearances. Searching in Port Chester and Rye may reveal more about the lives of the two owners. Other than the coming and going of Kenney, Brown & Werner garnered no attention, it was below the national reporting system. Partnerships were often short lived and the owners may have moved into a more remunerative show activity, such as a pavilion theater, variety show, side show, etc., or returned to enterprises outside of “show business.” Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4667. Capt. Stiphen Seline, 25 Aug 2016 - Information on Capt. Stiphen Seline. In 1926 he joined Veliko Kvitashvili a cossack act in U S A. In 1939 he performed at New York World's fair as a Cossack. He is listed from 1944 - 47 with Cole Bros Circus. Need to know when he formed "The Imperial Russian Cossacks" group. His agent was H. C. In graham & Co., 59 East Van Buren St., Chicago, Il. Thank you for any information you can provide. Sincerely, James W Hicks Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 27 Aug 2016 - Veliko Kvitashvili is identified as a Georgian, as were most of the riders aggrandized as “Cossacks” with American circuses, Wild West operations and other shows and exhibitions. He is named as such in an online hit [http://www.georgianjournal.ge/society/29870-proud-and-graceful-georgian-riders-in-the-west.html] as well as in Richard Alexis Georgian’s book “Cossacks, Indians and Buffalo Bill,” the story line of which ends with WWI. You may also find Irakli Makharadze, “Georgian Trick Riders in American Wild West Shows, 1890s-1920s” (McFarland, 2015) of interest. Here’s one review: http://www.lrgaf.org/articles/horsemen_daredevils.htm
Seline’s 1926 arrival perhaps connects with his presence (as Stephene Seline) on Miller Bros. 101 Ranch in 1927, as a Cossack. [http://www.kaycounty.info/101_Ranch/1927roster.htm]. He may have remained with it until the Ranch show folded in August 1931. The railroad shows that were home for many Georgian Cossacks evaporated 1930-1932 and many were out of jobs, with few prospects. That circumstance may have suggested to Seline the possibility of forming his own touring act, which could be booked with various venues and activities, rodeos, agricultural and world’s fairs, indoor circuses and more. Constant employment was almost impossible.
He was on Cole Bros. as early as 1942, named as Steve and Evelyn Seline, members of the Wild West concert. [Billboard, June 13, 1942, 39, Google Books] By 1947 he was identified as the head of the operation. [Billboard, April 26, 1947, 362]
59 East Van Buren Street was the address of the Athenaeum Club, an athletic club. The Mullini Sisters, a vaude act, used a suite in it for contacts in 1920, so they may have been renting out rooms for income. The same address was published for others in public trades. There were no hits associating Ingraham with the address in New York Clipper, which ran out about 1923, or Billboard through 1922. In 1929 the structure was replaced by the Buckingham Building, an office structure still standing in downtown Chicago, familiarly known as The Loop. In March 1930 Ingraham was noted as being in advance of a Passion Play show in Florida, but had been working on behalf of the Chicago Stadium, which had opened in 1929. As I recall, the opening operation was the Miller Bros. 101 Ranch. He could have met Seline at that time. In mid-1930 Ingraham and Rutherford took title to the defunct Cole. Bros. Circus and moved it to Peoria, IL, where it failed to come together as a viable traveling show and was sold off to Rutherford’s frequent employer, George Christy.
H. C. Ingraham is a known and documented circus staffer. Given the Ranch show’s employment of Seline and their 1931 closure, along with Ingraham’s Chicago location in 1930. I’d recommend looking in 1931 to 1942 Chicago city directories and also searching Billboard issues via ProQuest’s paid website for entertainment journals [Entertainment Industry Magazine Archive http://www.proquest.com/products-services/eima.html]. There’s a good chance that you’ll find Ingraham working out of a Van Buren street address, which would date the event. You can also search therein for Seline’s name and the Imperial Russian Cossacks name and fill other gaps in his career chronology.
If you haven’t contacted Pete Shrake at the Circus World Museum library, you might do so and ask him to check their name finding aid for Seline, including all spelling variations on his name, nicknames, as well as for his wife and associates. H. C. Ingraham should not be confused with Howard Ingram, a one-time show trainmaster, who remained active into the 1950s. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4666. Leo Banks, 23 Aug 2016 - I was wondering if anyone could help me find any information on a "Leo Banks." He was from Nova Scotia, Canada. He was travelling with a circus which came to Virden, Manitoba in 1946. I would very much like to get in contact with him or his family! Debbie Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 24 Aug 2016 - A Google Books Advanced Search revealed one possible entry for “Leo Banks.” He was identified in the Billboard issue of July 20, 1946, page 54 as a “boy wonder” in the 10-in-1 side show with the combined Nos. 1 and 2 units of the J. E. Casey Shows. They played the Dauphin, Manitoba Fair the first three days of the week of July 7. When it was a motorized carnival, having several units, it traveled the highways on trucks and trailers. For a period, 1943-1944, it also moved by train. It wintered near Winnipeg, the address given as 567 St. Mary’s Road, St. Vital. There are photos of the show online. A profile of the outfit can be read here: http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/sgc-cms/histoires_de_chez_nous-community_memories/pm_v2.php?id=story_line&lg=English&fl=0&ex=00000843&sl=9375&pos=1. You placed the Banks name in quotation marks; are you aware if that was his real name, or an alias? Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
- Reply: 27 Aug 2016 - I’m not sure if “Leo” was his given name or short for something else! Debbie
- Reply: 28 Aug 2016 - Banks could still be living today; if age 20 in 1946 he’d be about age 90 or greater today. But, that’s the lower limit and it’s beyond average male life expectancy, so odds are against it. Leo could be a nickname, or shortened first or middle name, you’re right, it could be almost anything. You might try searching for full given names with which it’s associated, Leonard and so on. You might search Canadian, provincial and American death records, as well as Nova Scotia directories and census documents. Build out from the one fact that you have, his Nova Scotia location, assuming it’s accurate. A circa 1926 or earlier birth suggests inclusion in 1920 or perhaps 1910 censuses. You might find an obituary, which can name next of kin and other relevant data; a death certificate that mentions relations; internment records (which can reference next of kin) and so on. You might consult with a professional genealogist familiar with Canadian documentation if nothing turns up. Al Stencell, a Canadian in Toronto with a wealth of knowledge about the Casey operation and Canadian showmen in general, may also have some helpful tips. He would know the occupation of a “boy wonder.” Also seek out ProQuest’s entertainment archive, as related in message 4667 and search for Banks; maybe he was active in the 1930s and 1920s. F. D.
- Reply: 31 Aug 2016 - In regard to message 4666 what was Leo Banks aka Boy Wonder famous for doing in the carnival? Debbie
- Reply: 03 Sep 2016 - I searched without clarifying success for the phrase “boy wonder” as employed by carnival personnel. In an offline exchange with Al Stencell, who has studied the topic for years and knows many people that were in the trade, he suggested, but was unable to confirm that the identification might relate to a “walk on” person, someone seeking a meal[s], lodging, employment or transportation, and who was willing to perform most any task or job in the side show to be retained. It speaks to an enthusiasm to participate and join in. The component word “boy” might suggest a youthful person, or a somewhat denigrating naming of an older individual; and “wonder” presumably relates to the willingness and perhaps ability to attempt or accomplish any task or assignment given to them, with or without competency and success. It seems to parallel other societal use of the phrase to some regard. Other veterans of the carnival world are certainly invited to offer their insights on the interpretation. Word and phrase usage varies from show to show, circus to carnival, regionally and across time. F. D.
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4665. Ring swinger, 13 Aug 2016 - What famous ring swinger, muscular bound, female performer; born 1891, fell to her death in 1931; circus performer, 40 yrs. Old; possibly. W. brisbane circus. Please reply to psweney32@gmail.com Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4664. Wagon carvers, 12 Aug 2016 - Is there a site dedicated to or information about the Circus wagon wood carvers in the 1800’s? I am looking for information on Daniel Schram(m), who carved many of the Wallace Circus wagons at their winter quarters in Peru, Miami County, Indiana in the last half of the 1800's? Thank you! Pam Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 31 Aug 2016 - Hello Pam, I know you and I have spoken as well as you and Shirley at the Miami Co. Museum talking to each other. This answer is just to put the same responses on this forum. To answer your question, There is no website dedicated to the wood carvers of these circus wagons. By far the best coverage comes in the form of Frederick Fried's book "Artist's in Wood" but it doesn't cover the Sullivan and Eagle crafters.
The greatest treasure we could ever hope to find would be the Sullivan and Eagle Company records. Sadly, they were destroyed along with all the wagon blueprints in the devastating 1913 floods in and around Peru, Indiana. A few historical articles have mentioned that this wagon was built by or an order for wagons was placed with Sullivan and Eagle but they don't go into detail as to who the designers, craftsman, wheelwrights or carvers were.
Keep in touch with Shirley Griffin. If anything can be found out about the Miami County history, she is in the right place to see it. Bob Cline
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4663. V J Czech, 07 Aug 2016 - I am looking for information for a circus performer - VJ Czech, who was murdered in Morjekato, Java in approximately 1928. He was a circus performer who was either Polish or Russian and was part of a circus troupe from Poland or Russia who performed in India, Java. He was a horse trainer and trick cyclist who travelled with his family (wife Nadia/Nadeshda and Nina - daughter). Michele Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4662. Leon Brothers, 03 Aug 2016 - I am seeking information about the "Leon Brothers" circus act in Chicago, Illinois in the ~1870’s. I’d like to know their first names, and any other information that is available. My 2x great grandfather, William Anthony Leon, is said to have been part of an act such as this. He was born in NYC in 1852 and moved to Chicago, Illinois in 1854. We know nothing about his parents or possible siblings. Any information would be appreciated! Toni Leon Kovarik Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 10 Aug 2016 - Go to the Virtual Library on this website, select the “people” portion and then go to Slout’s Olympians of the Sawdust Circle. There are a number of gymnasts [also known as acrobats, tumblers, to some degree leapers] named Leon that might be the people you seek. There’s also an entry for a family that used Leon as a stage name. There are a number of first names that could be checked further in digitized newspapers, the online New York Clipper, census and genealogical documentation, etc. One is a Willie Leon, a leaper. They possibly had brief careers that included both circus and stage work. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4661. Louis Milian, 30 Jul 2016 - My father, Louis Navaro Milian (who was part of a clown duo, Hedesa & Milian, for the Ringling Brothers Circus, in the late 20’s, early 30’s. Does anyone remember if their family member was in RBBB at this same time, have any memories/pictures of my father, Louis Milian or Mr. Hedesa? I would like to know what kind of clown act Hedesa & Milian had & find out more about Mr. Hedesa as well. Thank-you for your help! Maria Luisa Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 31 Jul 2016 - I searched in a variety of ways for clowns or performers named Hedesa and Milian and had absolutely no hits. That’s pretty unusual. Did they use stage names or aliases; different spelling; or is there another explanation for the absence from documentation? Do you have any other information, textual or image, that could serve as a search initiation point? You might try contacting knowledgeable people on circus clowns including Pat Cashin, Bruce Johnson and Greg DeSanto. Once an accurate identity is established some information ought to be available. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4660. Ontario 1889, 30 Jul 2016 - I am looking for any info of Circuses which travelled through Kirkfield (Eldon) part of Victoria County Ontario in 1889. Turns out that one of my ancestors may be a descendent from such a traveling circus. An old family mystery has resurfaced. In 1889 a 3 to 4 year old boy, wondered a pun [wandered from?] a family farm near present day Eldon-Kirkfield Ontario Canada. No one came looking for him, and the family knew not who he was or where he came from. The only clue, was that there was a circus of Gypsies traveling through the area 3 days prior. He would eventually marry a women from Little Britain, and have 2 daughters. One of them would be my Grandmother. They were both told by their father’s mother that he was not hers’ and the old family secret was out. This would only stay hidden till just recently, and has been passed down to me. So am looking to see which troupes were traveling through at this time, and maybe I can search more into my family mystery. Tom Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 31 Jul 2016 - You can find circus routes in local newspapers, or those printed in nearby communities (check Markham and Oshawa), and also in the weekly trade magazine New York Clipper, which is online free with key word searching at Illinois Digital Newspaper Collections. Try searching years other than 1889 as family legends are often unreliable. Beyond Kirkland and Eldon, also try other local community names, Ontario, etc. There were any number of itinerant overland troupes, showmen, etc., seeking an audience. “Ontario” alone had 33 hits.
You might consider having family DNA tested to learn more about your heritage. Have you checked Canadian census records or consulted any genealogical websites? Traveling circuses and gypsies are “lumped” together by some, but they are two entirely different lines of development.
There are some online circus photos taken in Oshawa, but they are from a later visitation by the Pan American Shows, a railroad circus. Other railers, including Norris & Rowe and Sanger also visited Oshawa, so they were in the area - but in the larger communities. The railroad was in Kirkland by 1888, and also at Eldon, perhaps before, but a circus visit was determined by population and possible audience, not solely access. Overland outfits, moving by horse and wagon, usually played the hinterlands communities. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4659. Rudolph Grauwitch, 27 Jul 2016 - Looking for information about Rudolph Grauwitch aka “The Gorilla Man” who performed for Adam Forepaugh’s circus in the early 1880s. Any information will be greatly appreciated! Kory Rogers, Shelburne Museum. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 28 Jul 2016 - Bona fide gorillas were a rarity and thus anything bearing the name, including known animal frauds, provoked interest. Other beasts were billed as gorillas, such was the interest to observe one outside the natural habitat. The only true gorilla brought to Europe during Grauwitch’s time reportedly died at the Jardin des Plantes in Paris in the spring of 1884. This was in Clipper, May 24, 1884, page 150. At an estimated age of less than four years, he was exhibited during the time frame when Grauwitch was active.
The first true gorilla didn’t arrive in North America until 1897; it was preceded by fraudulent presentations. The 1897 example and other aspects of the species here are covered in “The Ringling-Barnum Gorillas and Their Cages” in Bandwagon, Nov-Dec 2006. There are surely numerous zoological papers on the topic.
Rudolph Grauwitch, the “Gorilla Man,” was possibly an example of an extremely hirsute man, enduring hypertrichosis, akin to JoJo (The Dog-Faced Man/Boy), Lionel (Lion-faced Boy) and others who appeared with side shows, dime museums and the like. The February 18, 1882 New York Clipper, page 791, stated: “Two features of Forepaugh’s sideshow imported to this country, we are informed, will be a man with the head of a horse, and a gorilla man entirely covered with hair from head to foot.” So, Grauwitch was presumably from abroad, European given his name, and was with Forepaugh for the first time in 1882 - unless his true origin was aggrandized for publicity purposes as was common practice. You’ve already found his listing in the 1883 Forepaugh route book, on this website: http://www.circushistory.org/History/Forepaugh1883.htm. In that entry, arrivals from Europe are noted as such, giving rise to questions about his origin. The Forepaugh sideshow roster published in the Clipper, May 3, 1884, page 105, fails to include Grauwitch. So, he may have done a typical two-year turn and moved on, perhaps shaving or dropping his disguise.
Neither “gorilla man” nor “Rudolph Grauwitch” garnered many search hits, which might reflect limitations of OCR, spelling variations, or little interest in his presentation. His two-year stint stands in contrast to JoJo’s career. Being back-to-back, the comparison may be revealing. Forepaugh white-washed an elephant for the 1884 “white elephant war” season and had previously tried to pass off a very young imported elephant named “Chicago” as a domestic birth. Perhaps his “gorilla man” was an equal ruse; not a really hairy man, but one in a suit that portrayed a gorilla. This fit in with portrayals of “wild men,” “missing links” and the like, all popular in the wake of Darwin’s publication.
JoJo, reportedly born Fedor Jeftichew, is alleged to have been signed by Barnum in 1884, but during 1883-1886 the sideshow privilege was contracted out to others. “Discovered by Barnum” may be a meaningless assertion generated later and needing confirmation. The sideshow attractions would have been contracted by the sideshow concessionaires. It could be argued that JoJo first garnered national attention while touring with Barnum & London in 1885. His arrival in the US, on October 12, 1884, accompanied by a personal manager, is documented in newspaper accounts in late 1884 (Sacramento Daily Record-Union, October 14, 1884; Morrisville (VT) News and Citizen, November 6, 1884). It was announced “He will be exhibited.” The earliest booking located was for the dime museum in Indianapolis in January 1885 (Indianapolis Daily Sentinel, January 5, 1885, “dog face man”). This preceded any affiliation with the Barnum outfit. JoJo’s name is first listed as a Barnum & London attraction in an advertisement in the New York Sun, April 14, 1885. He’s listed as a show museum attraction in the 1885 route book, his manager identified as Nicholas Foster. The museum had an ethnological character, more so than the sideshow, and may have been a presentation controlled by the circus. His whereabouts during the summer of 1886 are unknown, he was not with the Barnum show, but findable bookings before and after the touring season place him in dime museums. In 1887 he traveled with the S. H. Barrett show. The remainder of his career can be documented elsewhere.
Other “gorilla men” donned hairy suits and another was a mummy (1891). In 1898 there was a “clever chimpanzee” named Sally accompanied by her consort, “Congo, the gorilla man.” The true nature of Sally was ambiguous in reviews, but Congo seems to be of the “missing link” sort of attraction generated by Darwinian interpretations. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4658. Horton & Demers Circus, 17 Jul 2016 - My name is Rosemarie Bradshaw and I am trying to find information on the H and D Circus. The Horton and Demers Circus was most likely based in MA. I do know that it also went into CT, circa 1930 - 1940's. I was also told that at the end they were purchased by Ringling Bros. I have searched through the web sites and have been unable to find any information. I am hoping that you may be able to provide another avenue for my research. Thank you for your help. Sincerely, Rosemarie Bradshaw Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 18 Jul 2016 - The Horton and Demers operation appears to have been that of a married couple and wasn’t a circus. They were affiliated with a traveling, motorized carnival. Check: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/DEMERS/2004-09/1095784499 and http://boards.ancestry.com/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=204&p=surnames.demers. They state in part: “It is my understanding that while Fred was married to Louis[e?] they have [had] a show called D & H (Demers & Horton and performed ab [at] the Old Man of the Mountain shows.” Also: “Joseph Fred Horton who was born to Marie Louis Demer (do not have her maiden name but looks like it could well be Francoeur) as she was born in Canada. After the death of his mother Joe and his father Fred Horton left and have been told they were in the circus. Marie's children from her first marriage were Eunice, Noella, Lillian, Norman & Leo.” Please refer to Query number 996 for an earlier and related response, from one of the principal’s descendants. For further information you’ll want to review period issues of Billboard that are available via ProQuest, a paid website. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4657. Percival John Douglas, 16 Jul 2016 - Looking for information about Percival John Douglas (known as PJ); The Great Zenoz, sensational one legged aerialist traveled with Sells Floto and Mulholland Shows was also known as the Ivory Carver wintered in Chicago; worked at Marshall Fields. Cherie Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4656. Jane Adams, contortion, 14 Jul 2016 - My Aunt, Jane Adams, was a contortionist in a circus (name not known) in South Africa before the Second World War. She left on a tour with the circus to the Far East just before the war erupted there. Letters from her ceased after the war broke out. It is possible that she had a circus name of which I am unaware. Does anyone have any information on what might have happened to her? E. Adams, Pretoria, South Africa Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4655. Barbette, 12 Jul 2016 - I am a french student in cinema, and I am interested in the performer Vander Clyde Broadway, as "Barbette". Do you think there is any chance to get in touch with someone who used to work with him? Best Regards, Laura Combeau Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 14 Jul 2016 - Barbette is reported to have performed for the last time in 1938, some 78 years ago. With an adult aged 20, that would make any companion performer or associate a centenarian. Chances of finding such a person aren’t totally impossible, but very, very, very limited. Perhaps you can find someone that knew him between 1938 and when he passed in 1973? If you look at his career between those landmarks it suggests possibilities for tracking down work associates. You might also explore the possibilities of people that were resident near him in Texas in his final days. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
- Reply: 15 Jul 2016 - Barbette worked as Aerial Director on circuses long after 1938, Cole Bros and Polack Bros to name two. Whitey
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4654. Lizzie A. Balou, 11 Jul 2016 - I have family diary from "Lizzie A. Balou". In it she is the fat lady at the circus married to the midget Job. I am having a very hard time finding any information about her. Would you have any idea where I should start? Thank you! Heather Jakeway Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4653. Edward Gallaway, 11 Jul 2016 - From a biographical sketch of Edward Gallaway (born 1869 in Delphos, OH, died 1930 in Chicago, IL) it says:
"Following this editorial adventure, Gallaway embarked upon a circus career. For three summers he travelled as the "Orator" for various small circuses; his field of action was the front of the tent where his oratorical powers reached a high state of perfection."
The time frame of his circus career would be somewhere 1895-1899. Before that time he worked in Fort Payne, AL. He spent most of his life in Illinois, Ohio and Indiana. I am wondering if it is possible to find out which circuses Edward Gallaway was the orator for? Among others, he may have worked under the names: (Peter) Edward Gallaway, S.W. Erdnase, E.S. Andrews, Bustin Homes. Best, Chris Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 14 Jul 2016 - Mr. Galloway spoke the enticing language out front of the side show tent, as part of the “bally,” which convinced local gawkers to part with some of their money and buy a ticket for admittance. It was a fee separate and apart from the ticket that provided entrance to the menagerie [zoo] and big top [ring performance]. Though many have termed them “barkers,” a term suited to “man’s best friend,” the more correct period terms for the job are talker, orator, lecturer and “blower.” There are fine line differences, changing between shows, across time, and between circuses, carnivals and amusement parks, where one or more of the job terms might not mean the outside person, but the personality inside the tent who made a discourse about the special personalities who were seen inside. People sometimes talked inside and out, blurring the placement differentiation.
By all means, also start your search with basic Google searches for the names, aliases and variants thereon.
A modicum of employment data survives for circus employment in the late 19th century. Mostly it’s for larger railroad shows, not more modest operations. The best prospects for finding something about Gallaway’s employer are to use key word searching for the names, aliases and variants thereon, in issues of the New York Clipper. It has been digitized and is available free online at Illinois Digital Newspaper Collections. There are also Clipper issues at the online Fulton History and perhaps elsewhere. Each has a different search engine and OCR service and may yield complementing results, so check both. In your Clipper searches, you might also search for mention of the geographic locations with which your subject was associated. The local newspapers in those communities may have reported on him at one time or another. Locals often looked down upon showmen, but enlightened folks realized that they simply led lives that caused them to be on tour, as travelers.
Another search tool would be the name finding aids at the Circus World Museum library. They include rosters from route books and elsewhere. Contact Pete Shrake at the facility and ask him for assistance.
“Small circuses” likely means overland troupes, moving by horse and wagon, through the hinterlands, though it might mean a modest railroad show of from one to five cars. Mention of Gallaway in the Jay Marshall collection compilation as the possible binder of the Erdnase books makes sense. It would not be unusual for a talker to present acts of his own in the side show, magic, playing cards and the like. As a possible consumer of “how to” books and such it may have connected Gallaway to that realm of activity. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4652. Christy & Lapham, 28 Jun 2016 - Has there ever been a circus or carnival with the name of or similar to Christy & Lapham? I find no mention in Parkinson's excellent work, Directory of American Circuses. Many thanks. Best Regards, Chris Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 11 Jul 2016 - What is the context and presentation of the Christy & Lapham title? Is it in a photograph from history, a piece of ephemera, upon an artifact or something else? The answer is sometimes provoked by the nature of the item. The name came up in a single, basic, confined Google search, “Christy & Lapham,” upon a 5-cent token, which appears to be of the type utilized in many trades. This one is labeled “concession,” which could mean an arcade piece. Concession per se isn’t confined to traveling shows; it’s a more generic term with at least two interpretations.
There are any number of circus tokens, mostly shell cards, and this token is not one I’ve seen associated with traveling shows. You’ll have seen entries for George W. Christy in the Parkinson reference, but Lapham bears no significance in his story. The carnival list in McKennon also has no relevant title entry. Some carnivals had arcade operations that possibly used such tokens. C. W. Parker mounted token-operated machines upon flat bed wagons and placed them in arcade tents. Various concessionaires would have operated these devices, perhaps under contract with Parker. There may have been others; check Al Stencell’s books on carnival operations.
You can search further for the title names in weekly issues of New York Clipper [at Illinois Digital Newspaper Archives] and Billboard [Google Books, Fulton History, Proquest], but there’s an equally good chance it’s from a landed enterprise; on a city street; in an amusement park; and elsewhere. There may also be trade magazines that catered to the coin-op industry. There’s also guides to tokens, etc. There were thousands of such storefront enterprises from the 1890s well into the 20th century. An authority on such pieces might be able to refine the period when such items were used and thereby limit the search period. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
- Reply: 27 Jul 2016 - If you are asking about the Christy & Lapham tokens that recently were in an on line auction, you should ask the person who has this website, http://freakmuseum.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_13.html
He has an extensive collection of carnival and circus store cards, tokens, and medals, both 19 and 20th century. He has helped me many times identifying examples in my collection. Hope this helps, William
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4651. Meritt Belew, 28 Jun 2016 - I have another question about Meritt Belew that I hope someone may have an answer to. I have found two newspaper articles from British Columbia advertising his presence there in 1919 with the Hullers Dog and Pony Show. I found an Ad for the Bullers dog and Pony Show so I am not sure if it is Bullers or Hullers. The ad and the two articles go on to talk about Merritt and give him a lot of praise. They also mention that he used to be with the old Norris and Rowe’s Dog and Pony Show and the articles mention that Merritt Belew was the adopted son of Harry Rowe or Henry Rowe depending on the article and H. C. Rowe in another. One is the Chilliwack Progress, Thursday, July 3, 1919 Page 2 and the other is the Vancouver Daily world, Wed. June 18, 1919 page 19. I have found that H. C. Rowe became a partner with Norris in 1900 and the show became Norris and Rowe. I believe they were located in California for a time and closed up their business finally in 1909/1910 after suffering some bad luck. Merritt could have been 7 or 8 when he started with them or was adopted? I cannot locate him in the 1900 Census and then he was in Sacramento when he was 17 in 1906 and then I lose him until he is with the Norris and Rowe Shows in 1909. I am trying to find anyone who might know of this adoption or could give me any information about Merritt at all. I have several Bandwagon articles that I sent for but nothing indicated that he was adopted by Mr. Rowe. Thank you in advance for your time. Sincerely, Wendy Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4650. Tyrone Taylor, 28 Jun 2016 - What is African-American wild animal trainer Tyrone Taylor's contact information and how do I contact him? Thank you, from Lucas j. Walker Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4649. Pete Closson, 28 Jun 2016 - My wife’s great grandfather was in the military in 1916 and I have a photo of his “tent mate” who is dressed up as a Strong Man. The hand written note on the postcard says it’s Pete Closson, Ringling Bros. strongman. The spelling may be wrong, but are you aware if there were any strong men with that sounding name in the early 1900’s? If yes, I’d be happy to send you a copy. Regards, Dan Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4648. Elephant escape, 28 Jun 2016 - My mother was at a Ringling Brothers Circus in Fort Worth, TX in 1949 where an elephant escaped and ran into the crowd. I have been looking for a news story or any information about this incident. Do you know of any? Thank you! Holly Palmo Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4647. Country Bill, 28 Jun 2016 - I am seeking information on an employee of Beers-Barnes Circus. He was known as "Country Bill." His drivers license had his name Robert Lee Davis but he was actually born Charles G Raymond. In May of 1965 he booked the Beers-Barnes circus to be held in June 1965 in Lonaconing, Maryland. He may have worked for this circus for many years. Charles left his family in Massachusetts c.1935 and his life and whereabouts has been a mystery to his family until we recently discovered his death in May 1971 in Harrisonburg, VA. No next of kin came forward for his body. He is buried in a donated lot in Lacey Spring Cemetery, Lacey Spring, Rockingham County, Virginia. What details we have found are available on findagrave.com here: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=62369265. There is also a facebook page for him. Does your organization know of any payroll records or any other documents that might provide any details on when "Country Bill" worked for Beers-Barnes? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much for any guidance you might provide. t peters Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4646. Lillian Fish, 28 Jun 2016 - Am looking for information about Lillian Fish, supposedly a circus high-diver. She was born in Chicago around 1900. Know she was married in Iowa about 1919, so I presume performed in Iowa or Illinois? Looks like she was married to my grandfather, Alex Fasules, for about a year around that time. Would appreciate any help you may be able to provide. Thank you, Alex Fasules Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 14 Jul 2016 - By the 1920s there were few “high diving” acts on traveling circuses. Sometimes such an act was billed as an extra for a spring indoor opener, but they generally weren’t on the daily changing outdoor route through the summer. They would be more commonly seen with traveling carnivals, at amusement parks and perhaps county and state fairs, where they served a free attractions. Residency, per se , plays no major role in itinerancy; a show from Iowa could have traveled anywhere the route took it. Your best bet will be to search for female divers in the trade journals New York Clipper and Billboard, as per information given in other responses. Use the names you have for her, single and married, and variations thereon, and any and all spouses. Also, expect that she won’t have been billed as “Lillian Fish,” but by another name, an alias, with perceived greater publicity appeal. That will make the search more complex. The more information that you can find about her life off the shows, the better the chances that you’ll find her in a show chronicle. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4645. Richard Walden, 28 Jun 2016 - My Grandfather Richard Walden worked with Barnum and Bailey circus in Sarasota, FL. While working there my Grandmother had my dad in a tent on the beach. I was wondering if I could find out any info on that? This was in 1924. Thank you for your time - Alice Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 14 Jul 2016 - Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Combined Shows didn’t relocate to Sarasota, Florida until the winter of 1927-1928. There is thereby a conflict with the 1924 birth year for your father and your grandfather’s employment by the circus - they cannot be concurrent as you wrote in the query. Likely, there is an explainable resolution. The first thing would be to obtain a copy of your father’s birth certificate from Sarasota or Manatee Counties, Florida, if he was born in one of them. The unusual birth circumstances suggest that it may have been reported in one of the local newspapers. With an accurate birth month, day and year from the birth certificate you can then search the local newspapers. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4644. Ringling Museum Artificat lists, 28 Jun 2016 - I am curator for the Salon De Magie who owns many of the original items donated by John McManus to the Circus Museum of Sarasota. We are trying to locate a listing of the items donated or catalogued by the museum that pertain to this magic portion of the museum. As many of you might now, this collection of John McManus and Thomas Worthington was donated to the Circus Museum in the early 1950’s. As John Ringling North realized people would not pay to come see this static exhibit, he disposed of it. Surely someplace a listing of the original items must exist some place. Any help or leads would be sincerly appreciated. Richard Hughes Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4643. Sylvia Moravec Reckliess, 28 Jun 2016 - As I search for photos of Sylvia, I've come to be in awe of the Circus Community and all the fantastic web sites! I'm looking for photos of Sylvia Moravec Reckliess. As the Reckless Duo, she performed with her husband and his brother as a head balancing/trapeze act for Ringling and vaudeville from c.1917-1925 as Sylvia Mora and CO / Reckless Duo. She appeared with her husband (Frank) and daughter into the mid 1930's. I have some somewhat grainy Billboard, Variety, Clipper and newspaper photos and one nice postcard ad from a Moravec Family descendant at Ancestry.com. They knew she was with the Circus but not the vaudeville connection. She was born in Chicago in 1893. I am trying to "prove" that she co-starred with Stan Laurel in his 1922 short comedy "The Egg" as "DRIN MORO". The Ancestry family has no knowledge of this, either way. Better photos might help compensate for the heavy makeup used in films for a positive ID. I have about an 80% confidence level that Drin and Sylvia are one and the same. Her husband and his brother Fred and sister Gertrude immigrated from Germany thru Cuba about 1914. The 3 played as the Reckless Trio for Ringling and about 1917, Trudie went with the Arleys. I think she married one of them. I will also check with the Baraboo Circus Museum. Any search suggestions you have will be appreciated. She appears at 4:30 in this youtube clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3boi-KSanJo. Jarvis - Chicago Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 14 Jul 2016 - The Pete Mardo photographs of RBBB provide some photographic coverage of early 1920s acts. You can peruse them at the CWM library in Baraboo. Bookings as Hollywood film doubles were sometimes reported in New York Clipper and Billboard. Clipper is online at Illinois Digital Newspaper Collections; Billboard is only at ProQuest’s paid site for your time frame, though take a look on Fulton History’s website - it might reach 1922. The Sons of the Desert seem to know just about everything about Laurel & Hardy; if you haven’t accessed that membership, it may be worth an attempt. You might also try perusing magazines that catered to the film trade; perhaps some published comprehensive cast lists, including stunt doubles. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4642. Brooks family, 28 Jun 2016 - I came across the web site of circus biographies a-b. I found my great uncle Leslie Brooks his sister was Elizabeth Annis Mellor (nee Brooks) my grandmother. Some of the information was supplied by Terry Brooks. I am trying to find and hopefully get in touch with the Brooks family. Can you please help. Please reply if only to say no. Thanks Carole Mellor. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 14 Jul 2016 - Do you know if Brooks was married, or had any children? Siblings? Your best bet is to do some online directory and residence searching for people named Brooks in the vicinity of Medford, OR, where Brooks expired - and ascertain if that was his residence or where he just happened to be when he expired. Unfortunately, that was 33 years ago, nearly two generations have passed since then. With a mobile population people are always on the move.
You might seek a copy of the newspaper obituary. It may provide the name of his next of kin and the name of the cemetery where he was interred. The cemetery internment record may also name next of kin, or those that provided for his burial. If you can find his 1983 street address, sometimes current occupants or neighbors have a recollection of a past resident. Being a circus man and a clown would have imbued him with a special and memorable personality.
Here’s an image of Brooks, date unknown. http://clownalley.blogspot.com/2009/08/leslie-brooks-undated.html. Perhaps members of the clowning world can assist you with further information? Check with Greg DeSanto of the Clown Hall of Fame in Baraboo, WI; also Pat Cashin [clownalley website link]; and Bruce Johnson at http://www.charliethejugglingclown.com/clown_history.htm. A simple Google search of “Leslie Brooks” brought forth a number of relevant hits that may be worthwhile to pursue. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4641. George Jabaley, 28 Jun 2016 - I'm Mary Kay, and I’m looking for information on one of my ancestors, but I have very few facts to begin. Here’s what I know: his Anglicized name was George Jabaley, but some alternative spellings of his last name are Jbeily, Jabaly, and Jabal. He would have immigrated from Lebanon or Syria (although maybe not a direct route), and it would have been some time between 1890 and 1910. When he arrived (I think through Ellis Island, but I’m not sure), he joined the Sells Brothers Circus. He was joined a few years later by his elder brother, Solomon.
Basically, I want to know everything: how would he have gotten into the circus? How long was he there? What did he do? What was that circus like? Would he have been the only one who didn’t speak English? Would anyone else have spoken Arabic? What acts were involved (at all), in that circus or its competitors/contemporaries? What was their route? And anything else that I don’t know to ask — I’ll appreciate any leads at all! Thanks so much! Mary Kay Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 14 Jul 2016 - Sells Bros. Circus existed 1872-1895 and became Forepaugh-Sells for 1896-1907 and 1910-1911, out of Columbus ,OH [and Baraboo, WI 1910-1911]. It was a big operation. There’s much documentation about them. Be aware, there’s also Sells & Rentfrow; Sells & Downs; Sells-Floto; all of which had a name originating with an adopted nephew of the Sells brothers, Willie Sells. Usually, but not always, the “Sells show” meant the Columbus organization, which was in the top five outfits through the 1880s and into the 1900s. You’ll find routes in the virtual library on this website.
Your ancestor may have been recruited to come to the US as a member of an acrobatic troupe. If you do some searching you’ll find posters and perhaps photos of Middle Eastern men doing acrobatic acts with traveling shows. You can also check for him, by name and with acrobatic troupes, in pages of the New York Clipper, free and online with key word searching at Illinois Digital Newspaper Collections.
Daily life rituals on shows can be ascertained by perusing material in the virtual library on this website. I’d recommend Thompson’s “On the Road with a Circus.” It provide s a general overview. You can locate many other period articles in magazines published in the period in question. I would recommend that you read George A. Hamid Sr.’s autobiography, “Circus,” (1950). He came from the Middle East, was an acrobat with shows, etc., at the turn of the century. It will provide you with some insights on challenges and opportunities facing anyone arriving in the US at the time. Travelers picked up needed language very quickly; old ways were maintained, but assimilation was pretty much inevitable. Some troupes may have been accompanied by a manager, who was bilingual; or perhaps one member was able to speak English.
The name finding aid at Circus World Museum might list him, but the variations in spellings may prove challenging. Check with Pete Shrake at the library and ask about conducting a search. I would encourage you to explore his life record, including his arrival in the USA. That would provide a specific anchor for his earliest employment with a circus. Perhaps his brother Solomon’s arrival would provide some clues in ascertaining it?
It’s not part of circus history, but there was a George Jabour who was the owner and operator of a large traveling carnival. He also had Middle Eastern heritage, as I recall. The DeKrekos may have shared a similar heritage. You might into their story. Joe McKennon’s “Pictorial History of the American Carnival” has a tertiary biography of Jabour and perhaps others. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4640. Victoria Bedini Davenport, 28 Jun 2016 - I am looking for a biography of Victoria Bedini Davenport. I can find snippets related to her life. I have run across a circus trunk that has her name on it and am hoping to piece together her story. Thank you very much. Wendy Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 14 Jul 2016 - The Bedini family of riders was covered in an article by John Daniel Draper in Bandwagon, Sept-Oct 1991, pages 28-33. The Davenports were surveyed in another Draper piece in November-December 1990, pages 22-29. These can probably be purchased as back issues. Many of Draper’s research notes can be accessed here: http://www.ringlingcircus.org/equestrian/ - Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4639. Frank A. Robbins, 28 Jun 2016 - Are you aware that there is an 1886 sheet music on Ebay with song and chours deicated to Frank A. Robbins' New Shows, Circus, Museum, and Monster Menagerie. Barbara Hospel Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 14 Jul 2016 - Yes, it was acquired by a learned and valued member of the CHS who may utilize it in a future article in the society journal, Bandwagon. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4638. Oral C. Marsh, 28 Jun 2016 - I am trying to find information about my great uncle, Oral C. Marsh. All I know about him is he left Hendricks County, Indiana in April 1933, after borrowing a suit from my grandfather, to join the circus in Kansas. He was never heard from again. I found his grave in Missouri and his tombstone says The Tentman on it. He died in 1968. I can only assume that he put tents up at the circus. Thank you for any help. Tina Funkhouser Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 14 Jul 2016 - Your best chance of finding information about Oral C. Marsh would be to search for his name, and variations thereon, in pages of the weekly theatrical journal Billboard. There is some coverage up to about 1922 in Google Books and Fulton History, but the 1920s-1930s are largely available only on the paid ProQuest website. They provide key word searching. Perhaps you can visit a local metropolitan or college library that subscribes to the service? I would also encourage checking Kansas newspapers of the period that have been digitized and are available with key word searching.
In addition to the circus, tents were also employed to house “back end shows” with traveling carnivals and also repertoire tent theaters. The Midwest and Great Plains states were filled with such operations. Kansas City, Missouri was the regional hub for traveling shows. Showmen gravitated to the Coates House hotel, where they would meet.
His obituary stated he was born c1896 (c1894 in 1910 and 1920 censuses) in Indiana (Brown, IN in 1910, 1920 censuses; Google ref to an April 1916 land deal in Brownsburg, Hendricks County, IN with an Oral C. Marsh); resided in Belton 22 years (1946-1968?) and passed in Harrisonville. He was in the equipment rental business. There were and are tent rental outfits spaced across the US; perhaps that was part of his trade? “Oral” doesn’t come up in census searches, which seems unusual; yet, secondary sites do make listings of it, suggesting different qualities of OCR capability.
You can look at the actual circuses that were in operation in the 1930s on this website, in the virtual library, the Sturtevant list. You might also look at winter quarters lists, to determine those that originated or wintered in Kansas and connected states, like Missouri. It seems somewhat unusual that he would simply leave the Indianapolis area and venture west to join a show; it suggests some connective element that remains to be discovered; a friend; possible past employment; some other circumstance.
I would also recommend contacting Pete Shrake at the CWM library and ask him to check the name finding aids for your great uncle’s name. There is a collection of issues of the Opera House Reporter, a journal that catered to Midwest tent shows, at the repertoire theater museum at Old Threshers in Mt. Pleasant, Iowa. You might also contact the good people there and ask about your great uncle. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4637. John H. Murray, 25 May 2016 - Just wondering if anyone knows where John H. Murray was born, lived and died? Was he married and did he have any children? I'd like to obtain any information about his life. Thanks! Lorelei Murray-Devine Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 29 Jun 2016 - A basic biography of John Hayes Murray, giving his spouse’s name and wedding date, and mentioning two sons and two daughters, can be found on this page, on this website: http://www.circushistory.org/Olympians/OlympiansM2.htm It appears that his life (birth, death, etc.) focused around New York City. Further details of his family can probably be found in census and other genealogical-type resources. He had a long and varied career (performer and proprietor) in the circus business and you can search for data entries via Google, digitized newspapers, New York Clipper (Illinois Digital Newspaper Collections), other digitized collections, etc. There are multiple illustrations that exist of him, mostly engravings, as well as ephemera produced for his shows. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4636. Merritt Belew, 25 May 2016 - I was wondering if you please might be able to help me find some information on Merritt Belew - Liberty Horse Trainer. A few years ago (2008) I sent for and received some of your books. Full of great information by the way. Since then I packed them and do not have access to them at the moment. Recently I remember reading about Merritt Belew being in Hawaii with a Circus and I absolutely cannot find it now. Is this information something you could help me with? Thank you in advance for your time. Sincerely, Wendy Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 29 Jun 2016 - If you Google “Merritt Belew” + Hawaii, you will get an entry in Billboard, 1947, connecting him with Hawaii. You can also access it through Google Books Advanced Search. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4635. Philip DellaPenna, 25 May 2016 - My grandfather worked at Clyde brothers Cole brothers circus. His name was Philip DellaPenna and the circus called him "Nick". He was a clown cop and worked as a short order cook during the 40's 50's and early 60's. I'm looking for any information and/or photos of him. Donna Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4634. Circus Vargas, 25 May 2016 - Do you know anything about a Circus Vargas coloring book, circa 1970, with all the performers’ signatures in the book. Roaring tiger on the front, red background. Thank you. Shirley Werner Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4633. Toni Hayden, 25 May 2016 - Does anyone know anything about Toni Hayden who was in the circus back in the 1948 or 1949? Donna Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 29 Jun 2016 - A key word search of Billboard magazine, searchable on Google Books Advanced Search, using Toni Hayden (also Tony and Hayden+circus) failed to deliver any hits. A general Google search for the name was also fruitless. Is a different name or an alias possible? More information is needed to go further. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4632. John Green, 09 May 2016 - Ladieeeees and gen-tle-men, I am researching family history, and would greatly appreciate any help you might give me. I am interested in John Green - born in 1818 in Southwark, Philadelphia in about 1858, he married Rachel P. Horn of New Hampshire. Both John Green and the Horn family (Rachel's three brothers) owned a circus between 1850 and 1860. I have 3 newspaper articles referencing these circuses. Thanks very much, Gary H. Caufman Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 25 May 2016 - It would be helpful if you provided the titles of the shows, as well as the dates and locations of the engagements, as listed in your three newspaper articles. If the articles are not period pieces, in the time of the shows, but later flashbacks, that would also be helpful to learn. This is important because Slout’s “Olympians of the Sawdust Circle,” on this website, a fairly comprehensive biographical encyclopedia of 19th century American circus activity, fails to list any owner named John Green or Horn brothers. Similarly, Stuart Thayer’s “Annals of the American Circus 1793-1860” fails to list the requisite Green and Horn-named proprietors. If they owned a hitherto undocumented circus, or menagerie, it must be quite obscure. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, Johan and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4631. Alice Barham, 09 May 2016 - My mother was in the traveling circus in 1973 early 1974, she landed in Fort Myers, Florida and didnt leave she left the circus sometime in 74. She waa the lady that was sawed in half. Her name is Alice Stewart Barham. She was around 23 or 24. My reasoning is I'm looking to find out who my father is. Please contact me with any info. Dorlyn barham carolinachic4@gmail.com Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4630. Little Bob, 09 May 2016 - Would someone kindly list all of the various titles and partners Little Bob Stevens had over the years? Thanks - Whitey Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4629. Leonard Bros., 09 May 2016 - Looking for route of 1956 Leonard Bros. Circus verifying that the show played North Baltimore, OH? Sincere thanks to any and all who can verify this for me. Jim Davis, e-mail davis401@who.rr.com Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 25 May 2016 - The Leonard Bros. Circus played some Ohio dates but not the one you were looking for. Opened Apr. 21 London, Ohio; Sunday off; Apr. 23 Mt. Sterling, Ohio; Apr. 24 Sabina, Ohio; Apr. 25 Loveland, Ohio; April 26 & 27 Hamilton, Ohio; Apr. 28 Middletown, Ohio; Apr. 29 Oxford, Ohio; Apr. 30 Centerville, Ind; May 1 Lewisburg, Ohio; May 2 West Milton, Ohio; May 3 Arcanum, Ohio; May 4 Union CIty, Ind. Then Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois and Missouri. Ted Bowman Circus Route Collection.
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4628. Circus tiger, 09 May 2016 - Could you please check your files for a young girl who was mauled by a circus tiger in Peru in probably the 1970's or early 1980's. Her name is Erica, but I don't recall her maiden name. She was scarred terribly by this incident, and asked me to help her find information on the Internet about this incident. Thank you ever so much, Sally D. Grube Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4627. Captain F. Athya, 15 Apr 2016 - I am researching the life of Captain F Athya, a strongman/acrobatic act from the 1870s and 1880s. He performed in various music halls and circuses in the UK and throughout Europe as "The Man with the Lion Jaw" also the "Athya Troupe" and "Captain F Athya - Monarch of Gun Shot and Shell" I have found many references in British and foreign newspaper archives. Does anyone know of him? Many thanks, John Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4626. Railroads, circuses, 12 Apr 2016 - How do I find the specific rail lines, and the railroad companies, that were used by the various circuses that traveled by train (I assume most did)? In particular, I'm interested in the period between 1890 and 1935. Thanks in advance for any pointers on where I can go to find out. David Stuart Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 14 Apr 2016 - While a number of circus routes for wagon and rail circuses are listed on this website they do not include the railroad used nor the miles between stops. The main place you can find this specific information is on circus route cards which not only list the date, city and state, but usually the railroad and miles. Some circus route books also include the railroad used in and out of a date. Search for the Cole Bros 1916 Circus on this website and you will see where the show went that year and the route cards in my collection for the show note the railroads used. Cole Bros. World Toured Shows – April 17 Ft. Smith, Ark – I.M. R.R. – 22 miles; April 24 Vinita, Ok. Frisco – 63 miles; May 15 Staunton, Ill. – Wabash – 20 miles; May 20 Harvey,Ill. – Ill. Central – 34 miles; May 26 Niles, Mich. – Mich. Cen. – 36 miles; June 7 Newberry, Mich. – D.S.S. & A. – 90 miles; June 15 Escanaba, Mich. – Soo Line – 38 miles; Aug. 20 – Miami, Ariz. – Ariz. & East – 25 miles; Aug. 24 Tombstone, Ariz. – South. Pac. - 140 miles; Aug 29 El Paso, Tx. – Texas, El Paso & SW – 72 miles; Sept. 5 Amarillo, Tx. – Rock Island – 115 miles; Sept 8 Alva, Ok. – Santa Fe, - 88 miles; Sept 11 Forgan, Ok – MK&T – 84 miles; Sept 19 Snyder, Ok - Frisco – 45 miles; Sept 23 Memphis, Tx –Ft. W & Den – 27 miles. The Circus World Museum holds a large collection of circus route cards. Ted Bowman Circus Route Collection.
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4625. Pete Mcdermott, Georgia Anderson, 11 Apr 2016 - I'm looking for a Pete Mcdermott who was a drummer in the circus. Also, Georgia Anderson on the trapeze, possibly they married, son Richard Mcderrmott. In the 1930's, sketchy information, but it's all I know. I would think they were in Wisconsin. Thanks for any piece of information. Bonnie Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4624. Henry Edgar, James Bros., 10 Apr 2016 - Two questions: One, about the late Henry Edgar, does anybody know if, in his youth, he went by the name of Sony Edgar? Secondly, I am looking for an article in the old Amusement Business, that would have appeared within a week or two of November 12, 1969 about James Bros. Circus maybe going out on rails the following season. If you can answer either, I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks much. My email is davidcoast@Yahoo.com. David Lewis Hammarstrom Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4623. Escalantes Circus, 03 Apr 2016 - Looking for information on a poster for Escalantes Combined Circus, a Gatti-Chaarles Production. Can you give me information on this show? Dendarah Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4622. Yiannos Novacek, 03 Apr 2016 - I am trying to locate some of living relatives. The only info I have is that my gggrandfather's name was Yiannos Novacek and his wife 's name was Maria and they owned a circus. They had many children but I only know the names of two, my grandmother's name, Elisabeth Hortenza and her sister Aranca. Thank you for any info you may send me. Regards, Bettina Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4621. Henry Washington Thompson, 26 Mar 2016 - I am looking for information on Henry Washington Thompson, 1892-1944, from Graves and McCracken County, Kentucky. I believe his circus may have been based out of Louisville, Kentucky. Uncle Washie was a little person. I don’t know if he married or had children. Regards, Donna Verner Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 29 Mar 2016 - Cole Bros. wintered in Louisville in the 40's. That might be the show he was with. Whitey
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4620. Robinson's Circus, Chillicothe, 25 Mar 2016 - I am researching information about Robinson's Circus visiting Chillicothe, Mo., on Monday, June 25 (year unknown) when I came across your website. You may already have information about Ed Smith, but please see the article below. Would you have any idea when Robinson's circus came to Chillicothe, Mo.? There's a gap in our archives. I think it was 1900. We have about 20 photographs of the promotional banners placed at various places in town. - Catherine Stortz Ripley, News Editor, Chillicothe (Mo.) Constitution-Tribune
"WILL JOIN CIRCUS. Ed Smith leaves tonight for Dodeon, Mo., where he will join bill car No. 1, belonging to Lemon Bros.' circus. He will travel with the bill posters about six months." Chilicothe Daily Constitution, April 12, 1905 Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 29 Mar 2016 - John Robinson’s 10 Big Shows Combined 4 Circuses, 3 Menageries, Roman Hippodrome, Grand Spectacle of King Solomon & Queen of Sheba and 2 Elevated Stages played Chillicothe in 1906. There was a double herd of elephants, 1500 rare and costly wild animals, the Battle of Wounded Knee with Indians, Cowboys, Scouts and Soldiers, The Leavensworth Zouaves, Ellsworth Female Zouaves, Robinson’s Female Cadets, and Captain Winston and his talented educated seals. The show played June 22 - Atchison, Kansas, 23 – Cameron, Mo., 24 – Sunday, 25 – Chillicothe, Mo., 26 – Brookfield, Mo., 27 – Macon, Mo., 28 – Monroe City, Mo., and 29 - Hannibal, Mo. You might want to check these papers for possible references to the Chillicothe date. Ted Bowman Circus Route Collection.
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4619. Will H Hill show, 25 Mar 2016 - I am looking for any info on a small circus out of Mississippi. It was called The Will H Hill show. Closed down in 1955/56. Has anyone ever heard of it?? Thank you! Renea Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 25 Mar 2016 - Listed in Robert L. Parkinson's "Directory of American Circuses": The Will Hill Society Circus (1930-1943), Will H. Hill and Alf. T. Wilton, proprietors. Parkinson also lists Hill's Hippodrome Circus, 1918, Will H. Hill, proprietor, 1918. See also W. H. Hill's on this website:
http://www.circushistory.org/History/BriefF.htm (scroll down or use find) - J. Griffin
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4618. Louis Bartlett, 20 Mar 2016 - I am hoping you can point me in the right direction. I am researching the tragic death of my Uncle Louis Bartlett (L.D. Bartlett) who was associated with over 100 American circuses throughout his career as a clown, highwire, trapeze artist and building scaler. Is there anything about Louis Bartlett, taking on the name of “Human Fly” from the early 1900’s to mid 1920’s? The articles I have tell only of his death in Columbia MO, where he was finishing a performance 5 stories high to 3000+ spectators, when he fell to his death – June 18, 1924.
Up until just recently, the only thing our family knew of Uncle Louis was that he was in the circus, he did a tight rope act, and he fell to his death while performing. We serendipitously came across 4 articles of his death and burial found in a family bible. I’m hoping that there might be some small bit of information about him somewhere in the circus archives. My father was also a clown associated with his Shriner’s temple out of Macon and Atlanta, Walter Bartlett (clown name Windy). Thank you for your consideration. Kind regards, Rick Bartlett Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 15 Jul 2016 - The last three decades of the 19th century and first three decades were an era of daredevil activity as humans challenged the governance of gravity and resistance to motion with mechanical devices and their own physical agility, ingenuity and strength. There were human cannonballs and arrows, leaping and somersaulting automobiles, high dives, ascensions and all sorts of presentations to place observers at the edge of their seat. Human fly activity, along with flag pole sitting and balancing at the edge of a building cornice were among the acts staged in city settings, where high places could be observed by crowds gathered below. Much of this activity is considered “circus,” but traveling shows featured only those acts that could be moved on a daily basis and performed twice a day, under the big top or as a free attraction on the lot. Non-show daredevil activity was not commonly reported in the weekly amusement trade journals; more frequently you’ll see it in newspapers.
Louis D. Bartlett was aged 31 when he died in 1924. That would suggest his performing would have started not much earlier than 1911, when he was 18. I searched New York Clipper at Illinois Digital Newspaper Collections for the name and variations. The only hit was in the September 21, 1923 issue, page 30, for a L. D. Bartlett, clown with Boyd & Linderman, a traveling carnival. Carnival and circus identities are often incorrectly confused. Some carnivals featured a back end show, in a tent, that presented a circus-style performance. There’s no way of ascertaining he’s your uncle. You can read the column of news online. You might also conduct further key word searching for his name, with Boyd & Linderman and elsewhere. You can also check issues of Billboard on Google Books, Fulton History and ProQuest. There is always the chance that he performed under an alias, a stage name, or anonymously. An associate named in the 1924 mishap was Walter Allen, and you might also seek his career to learn more.
There was a showman named L. A. [Leslie/Les] Bartlett, unrelated, who was active from c1909 to 1959. Be aware you may encounter postings for him in your search and do not confuse him with your uncle. There weer also other “human fly” performers, but I don’t recall others that suspended their body from a stretched inner tube. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4617. Babs, Flying Viennas, 19 Mar 2016 - Received news that Babs of The Flying Vienna's (Barbara Graham) passed away on 3/8/2016 at a Hospice in Bend, Oregon. She was born 1925 according to her sister Elizabeth Ray of Santa Monica, California. I would also like to have TCM Turner Classic Movies to include her obituary on air. Her story can also be found on a blog thecircusblog.com along with a photo of her with Ricky Nelson, Dave Nelson & Del Graham. Babs lived in Lake Hugh's, California. She appeared in many trapeze movies as stunt double for actresses like Doris Day. Ramsey Young Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4616. Rumbolds, 19 Mar 2016 - My name is Alison Johnson, I'm looking for history of my family and had a family tree sent to me. I'm looking for my great grandma's family, Rumbold, who died in 1987 following a heart attack. The Rumbolds were circus people, trapeze artists from the Basingstoke, Hampshire area. She has 4 children supposedly one being my mother's mum, Mary Violet May Rumbold, and Horace who were recieved into Hampshire childrens centre in July 1942. I've tried looking up for the famous Rumbolds but haven't come along anything. If youve any information i'd be greatful. Yours sincerely, Alison Johnson Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4615. Frank Heller (Modoc), 19 Mar 2016 - My name is Sammy Silver and I am a creative director freelance. I just finished reading the book, Modoc and I wanted to reach out personally to the author, Frank Heller. Do you happen to have the information contact for him. I wish to reach out to him and have a conversation under the stars. Thanks, Sammy Silver Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4614. John "Jack" Wilson, 19 Mar 2016 - I am looking for information on Jack Wilson of Cetlin and Wilson. I have been told that my great grandfather, of the same name, ran a circus/carnival and I have been looking for some biographical information on Jack Wilson to confirm or deny that he is my great grandfather. I have seen several posts mentioning books or articles written about Jack Wilson, but I have been unable to find any, nor have I found any online biographies. I just need some basic information about him to see if it matches up with what I have, but the more detail I can get the better. Scott Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 15 Jul 2016 - Your best resources for information on John W. “Jack” Wilson will be: Bob Goldsack’s book “A Pictorial History of Cetlin & Wilson” [check abebooks and other second hand sellers, or interlibrary loan]; checking entries in Billboard, available on Google Books, for Wilson entries; and local newspapers at the time of his death. Wilson sold the show in 1960, when Billboard coverage ends, and Goldsack didn’t report on his demise. See query 2521 for information about partner Izzy Cetlin. There was an article penned by Bob Cline about C&W later, by 2008, in the journal Carnival Midway, but I don’t have it to access. Perhaps Cline can post any information he found about Jack Wilson? There’s an online obituary for Thelma B. Wilson, his wife, who passed in Petersburg, VA on July 15, 2007. Here’s a video of still shots documenting C&W: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmhO0puuIkg. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4613. Buller Show, 19 Mar 2016 - I am an Archaeologist on San Juan Island, Washington. I had an inquiry about a circus that was once on the island and a possible elephant that died and was buried here. Along my trek to research I found your website CHS Circus History and did indeed find tracks to Robert W. Buller who had a circus in the 1919-1920 time era, that wintered here on San Juan Island. I believe the circus or he was from Victoria BC. Do you have more information on this circus and can help direct me. Thank you, Candace Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4612. Charles Haines, 07 Mar 2016 - I am looking for info on Charles Haines. He was apparently a front man for the Ringling Circus in the 1920s. He died in White Sulphur Springs, MT about 1928. He was my grandmother’s first husband. Thank you for any help. Jeann Morrison Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4611. Loyd Hardwick, 07 Mar 2016 - I am currently looking up information about a relative named Loyd Hardwick. He was in Ringling Brothers circus in the 1960s. He was with the company on and off. He worked for a private act and a foreign man name Gunther. He also did work with the elephants and also had a part in taking care of the tigers. Dalton Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4610. Robert Jolley, 07 Mar 2016 - I’m trying to find images, articles, documentation of any kind of my great-grandfather: Robert B. Jolley, and grandfather (his son): Isaac Stanford Jolley. When Robert owned a traveling circus east coast, early 1900’s. My grandfather played a child clown. I don’t know if Robert owned it himself, or they ’traveled’ with a company. They lived in Morristown New Jersey, and Elizabeth I believe. but probably traveled up and down the coast. Thank you anyone, for any bits and pieces. Karen Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4609. Benjamin Gorrill, 07 Mar 2016 - My grandfather Benjamin Ernest Gorrill was a stunt rider in 1915 Expo, we are looking for records of the who he performed with. In 1916 we know he was with 7 th Calvary at the Presidio. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Ernie Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4608. King Cole, 07 Mar 2016 - My great uncle Emile Bouchard joined the Barnum Circus probably in the late 1800s when the circus was in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. He became an elephant trainer known as King Cole and, according to my grandfather, toured worldwide. There's a mention of a King Cole with the Cancie Brothers United Shows. If anyone has heard of this man I'd love to know more about him. Thank you. Josephine Maguire, Drummondville, Quebec Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 19 Mar 2016 - The successive Barnum, Barnum & London and Barnum & Bailey circus played engagements in Montreal on these dates before 1900:
1877 May 28-30 Barnum
1883 July 16-17 Barnum & London
1885 Sept 3-5 cancelled in favor of Ottawa
1887 Aug 31-Sept 1
1889 Aug 23-24 Barnum & Bailey
1895 July 22-23
I searched for references to J. Emile Bouchard and also King Cole, without success. There are no references to him in the weekly trade journal, New York Clipper, nor in the readily available route books of the circus. Employment records from before 1900 do not survive. I also tried a large newspaper archive, Fulton History, which had many references to a hockey player named Emile Bouchard, but nothing relevant. Searching for "King Cole" is problematical because of the nursery rhyme, Nat King Cole and so on, all in great abundance.
Most elephant trainers in North America are pretty well known. I do not recall seeing the names Emile Bouchard or King Cole mentioned; but there's always the possibility he worked behind the scenes, or with a known trainer, as an assistant. Perhaps he was known by another nickname on the circus, before he attained some standing and reputation?
I found only a brief reference to "King Cole": Cancie Brothers' United Shows signed the agreement with the Alliance. Their advance department will employ about fifteen billposters, divided in two brigades. Frank E. Tracy will be general agent, Mike Shone, press agent, and John E. Garvey, special agent. In the side show will be featured King Cole, the Great Hall, Gavin, physical culture; Margie, transparent girl; Braggs, singing monkey; Madam Cameron's den of reptiles, and others. For the big show is the Les Troupe Zaritski, eight lady and gentlemen acrobats, including Little Alexis. Billboard, March 30, 1907, p. 32. You can read other entries about the Cancie show here: http://www.circushistory.org/History/BriefC.htm simply scroll down to them.
Two listings for the Cancie circus, for 1907 and 1911, can be found on this website at: http://www.circushistory.org/History/BriefC.htm. Simply scroll down to the name Cancie. The same 1907 information is in Variety, February 2, 1907. The Cancie Bros. are illustrated on page 29 of Billboard, October 19, 1907, viewable on Google Books. Cancie Bros. Union Shows, 490 Reservoir Avenue, Providence, RI, is in the winter quarters list in New York Clipper, March 20, 1909, 138. There is a listing of Cancie & Murray Shows, a 1910 traveling carnival, in the show listings in Joe McKennon’s book Pictorial History of the American Circus. Variety, March 7, 1914, lists Cancie Bros. Shows as wintering in Latrobe, PA. Such lists were often not updated frequently and need to be verified by other means. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, “The Ringling,” John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4607. Audrey Irene Gissel, 07 Mar 2016 - My name is Robert Carpenter and my email address is Robertcr8@aol.com. I recently have discovered who my mother's family is and since I never knew my mother that is quite the accomplishment. I know that her mother's name was Wally Edith Gissel she was born in 1938 in Huntington West Virginia. Her father was Walter gissel and he was a hell driver in the forties. Her mother's name was Audrey Irene hunt. She was born in 1920 in Spencer West Virginia. Audrey Irene married Walter Gissel. Audrey Irene later in 1944 join the woman's Army Corps in Huntington West Virginia, Huntington West Virginia is also right pretty much on the Ohio line. I have her marrying a Harry Bancroft in Hillsborough Florida 1946 and from what I understand Harry Bancroft is in the circus Hall of Fame for knife throwing if I am not mistaken as well as animal training. His grandson stated that he worked for Ringling 1st and later at Barnum and Bailey. Audrey Irene is my interest. I can find nothing on her after 1946. I was told she left my grandmother and Walter Gissel and the army to join the circus. This is further corroborated by her marriage in Florida to Harry Bancroft who was very active in the circus. She vanishes after 1946 and her marriage to Harry. The only other information I really have on her is that prior to being in the military she was a welder or worked with metal and heat has an occupation. My mother was later abandoned by Audrey's daughter Wally. It has been said that Wally also joined the circus in an attempt to find her mother and never did Wally has since died. As stated Wally's name was Wally Edith gissel and she married a Walters in 1955. She then later traveled all around the United States and was married several other times her married name include Tibbet, Barczak, kelleher, and Walters. Does anyone have any information on Audrey Irene or Wally Edith? Any information or guidance would be helpful I do know that Harry Bancroft and Audrey were divorced I do not know when but I know he remarried in the early sixties and he retired from the circus in cut and shoot Texas. Thank you, Rob Carpenter Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4606. Hudsons circus, 07 Mar 2016 - My grandmother and her family owned a circus called Hudsons circus around 1920. I think she was a trapeze artist. Would love to know more. Thank you, Susan Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4605. Walter McClain, 07 Mar 2016 - I am the great grandson of superintendent Walter McClain. I bear his name and intend to uphold his legacy my mother did extensive research before the internet but I still would like to know more. My grandfather was born 2 years before his death and is alive. He knew nothing of his father's circus career until the 70's. I'm just reaching out to others in a attempt to futher trace my lineage. Thank you, Sincerely, Braden McClain Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 19 Mar 2016 - I had hoped someone more knowledgeable than I would have responded to this. I believe Walter McClain had the herd on the Sparks Circus from at least 1923 through 1931 (the show's last year on the road). Then he went to the Al G Barnes Circus where he was in charge through 1938 (by which time the show was called Barnes-Sells-Floto). In that year Ringling-Barnum closed in June after some union problems; they later took some of their best acts and some animals to Redfield, SD where they became part of Barnes-Sells-Floto. That fall this enlarged show came back to Sarasota rather than the Barnes quarters in California. The Barnes show never went out again and thereafter McClain was Ringling-Barnum herd boss until his death November 25, 1942, when he was crushed by a runaway wagon at the "runs" or train unloading site. Years ago I knew a man Joe Shields in San Diego, formerly of Kansas, who was a cousin of McClain's. That is all I know. Whitey
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4604. Tod Browning, 07 Mar 2016 - My name is Mina and I am a screenwriter doing research about Tod Browning, director of 'Freaks.' I found that when he was young he joined the circus, and he used to perform an act called The Living Corpse, where he would be buried underground for up to 48 hours. The things I read stated that he had a breathing apparatus, but made no mention of how he got water, food, or how he was able to use use the bathroom while buried. Any insight you have into the technical aspects of how this act might have been performed would be very much appreciated! Best, Mina Elwell Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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4603. Henry French, 16 Feb 2016 - I am wondering if there are any records of laborers were ever kept. I am trying to trace my father's family and came to a dead end with his great grandfather. His was Henry French from Thetford VT. Sometime from 1870 to 1900 he left his wife and family and literally ran away to join the circus. I assume he worked as a laborer. I do not know the name of the circus but I do know it returned to the area in later years and his son refused to go to see him. The circus would have most likely have been performing in Lebanon or Hanover NH. Thank you, Laurie French Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 19 Mar 2016 - Circus laborers came and went, often with no retained record of their employment when wages were paid in cash and there were no government programs to track their presence and working life. Few circus business records survive from the late 19th century. Many laborers also were known only by a nickname. He might have been “Frenchie.” You can try searching for “Henry French” in New York Clipper, the weekly show trade journal at the online Illinois Digital Newspaper Collections, using that and also last name, first name, and maybe variants. There was a theatrical manager of the same name and between all of those of the same name a quick look revealed dozens and dozens of hits. You’ll need to poke through them for anything relevant. The Circus World Museum library has a name finding aid, the “yellow tickets,” that might be consulted. Establishing across thirty years the names of circuses passing through communities likely won’t make it any easier to learn which one he joined. Show existence was ephemeral and he may have been there with two different outfits. There are advertisements in local newspapers and the Clipper sometimes published routes that shows submitted. Finding him in the circus trade may be difficult, but if you can establish his residency at any time that could be a key to gaining insight on his traveling life. Have you tried census records, local directories, www.ancestry.com or other conventional genealogical resources? I’d recommend getting a handle on his “landed” life and use that as a springboard to research his traveling existence. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, “The Ringling,” John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL
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4602. Ruth and H. F. Boyte, 10 Feb 2016 - I am looking for pictures and information on my grandparents who were with Black Brothers Circus in 1935 and 1936. They were Ruth Boyte and H.F. (Archie) Boyte. Ruth rode an elephant named Alice. Archie worked a concession stand. This is the only information we have. Any help would be great. Thanks. Denise Wilson email, wilsondenise080@gmail.com Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 19 Mar 2016 - Alice was a vert popular name for an elephant so much so, that I have found 17 different elephants in the circus named Alice. I have not found one on a Black Bros. Circus. There was one on Barnett Bros. Circus. Barnett and Black are as close as I can come in trying to help with the circus title. While looking in Bob Parkinson's book "Directory of American Circueses, 1793-2000," there is a Black's Circus listed in 1933. There is no other information found about that show. As you can see, we are bouncing around your information but not hitting it exactly. I would suggest that you contact the Circus World's Robert Parkinson Research Library in Baraboo, WI. to see if they have any notes on Ruth and H. F. Boyte. Best wishes, Bob Cline
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4601. Circus typography, 04 Feb 2016 - We are two students from Milano, Italy, we have a project to do for a typography class and we chose the circus as our topic. We are looking for some info about the use of typography in circus posters and printing process. We already found some material but we were wondering if there’s more that maybe we couldn’t find, specifically on typography. Thank you for your time. Best regards, Federica and Anna Matilde Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
- Reply: 10 Feb 2016 - Posters and other advertisements for professional entertainment have always been generally printed by professional poster companies. The Central Show Printing Company of Mason City, Iowa was one of these companies. They advertised in Billboard and other Show Business Magazine. You may find them useful in your research. Billie
- Reply: 19 Mar 2016 - As for Europe a leading provider is an Italian Company: Roberto Fazzini. However, several circuses use providers in their own country. Ole Simonsen, www.circus-dk.dk
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